Last shot of the day on a film set, also the last name of the author of this blog. Martin - Latin singular, those soldiers who work for Mars, God of War. A smith. In this lifetime of words, music and film. AKA "The Afterlife Expert" (Coast to Coast AM) If you want to reach me, I can be found on FB, LinkedIn, or Gmail under MartiniProds (my youtube channel)
Friday
Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer, Bill Paxton, John McCain and Luana Anders
Thursday
Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer, "The Librarian" (5) and Marlon Brando
Saturday
Chatting with the Flipside via telephone and Audrey Hepburn, Monte Hellman and Laurie Bird
Chatting with Audrey Hepburn, Monte Hellman and Laurie Bird.
Audrey in her job with UNICEF |
I didn't ask for Audrey to come and chat with us; but I did have a discussion about her two days earlier, commenting that I always thought I had seen "My Fair Lady" but I had not.
With her pal Oscar |
Monte Hellman |
At some point I realized we only had a few minutes left, and asked if Luana Ander's old friend Monte Hellman had stopped by. Luana is our class moderator on the flipside. She knew Monte well. She knew everyone in Monte's films well.
So we had a lively chat with Harry Dean Stanton, Bill Paxton, Monte had messages for Jack Nicholson, Robert Towne and Fred Roos. All the details he talked about were accurate - but the most unusual part was my asking if "Laurie" was there to greet him.
Monte Hellman |
Jennifer could not know who Laurie was, or what I meant. But I knew Monte would. And he said he saw his old girlfriend waiting for him - someone he spent four years with back in the 70's, and who left him to be with Art Garfunkel. Laurie ended her own life (as her mother had) at the age of 26. Jennifer correctly reported that Laurie had taken her own life - but then had a message for Art Garfunkel.
Laurie Bird |
Laurie in Monte Hellman's "Two Lane Blacktop" with Dennis and James |
What makes this even more mind bending, is after Luana passed in 1996, I got a letter from her old roommate back in her teen years, who said that "Luana used to have a photo of Paul and Art next to a candle, and she would tell her roommates "I'm going to know both of them." The roommate didn't stay in touch with her, had no idea that Luana and Paul were an item, or that Art and Luana were an item.
Laurie and Art |
Mind blown.
A phone call from the Flipside:
I answer questions on Quora in a forum called "Hacking the Afterlife." This exchange happened recently, and I'm sharing it.
"A very very dear friend of almost 30 years recently passed of Covid on January 19. They removed life support at 4 pm. At this time I had no idea he had been sick (Since Dec 19th and put on a vent at that time.) We had been romantically involved years past and it just faded into a beautiful friendship; almost brother/sister. He used to call me all the time while on a detail (he was a police officer) and there was always noise in the background.
Our calls were a little infrequent during the holidays; he had moved in with his girlfriend so. I understood. I finally received a call January 19 it was at dusk.
"I said where the hell have you been???" We laughed and laughed. The conversation went in for about 2 hours. I actually had to pull off the road I was laughing so hard. And I was almost home. And didn’t want our conversation to end. Funny thing was, he never called at that hour. His work shifts were always around noon, but it was quiet in the background; no noise.
He was so happy like elated !!!!
I said, "Omg I have to go now" as I pulled into my driveway. He always said. "Ok - adios" and we hung up. The next day I told my friend. “ I talked to Dennis for 2 hours last night. I remember because it was her birthday.
But then I didn’t hear from him after that. I went to call to tell him my daughter had a baby, and his phone was disconnected. I knew something was wrong. I called his son and he told me (he had died). I said "Omg I just talked to him. In January."
He said, "There is no way you could have he was on a ventilator from Dec. 19th and died January 19."
Richard. What was that phone call !!!!!? I mentioned this call to numerous people. Because it as so wonderful. As all our calls were. Thank you for reading this.
My reply:
Thanks for sharing. It’s one thing to say “I’ve read about something like this” or “I interviewed someone who had that experience” and then to share the experience. When things occur we have to be a little bit like Sherlock Holmes and “eliminate all the other possibilities” to get to the truth.
I’ve heard of people “recovering” just prior to passing (Mentioned in Dr. Greyson’s YouTube talk “Is consciousness produced by the brain”), and there are people who get “cellphone calls” from people not on the planet. Sometimes it’s a word or two - Dr. Elisa Medhus got a call from her son who had ended his life early, and she was startled to hear him say “Mom I’m okay.”
My brother recalled having a long conversation with a good pal the night before he passed - and for two hours they spoke of how influential each other was in their lives, and how much love there was for one another. The next day he died from a sudden heart attack. At the funeral his widow went up to my brother and said “I overheard your conversation, and I’d never heard my husband talk like that to anyone so deeply about love and your relationship.” As if he knew he wouldn’t be much longer on the planet somewhere on the flipside.
The good news is this; everyone is accessible. I’ve been filming people chatting with loved ones for over a decade. Through hypnotherapy, meditation or mediumship. Each avenue yields results. What I frequently record is people saying “He’s telling me “I’m still alive. I’m still here. Just because you can’t see me doesn’t mean I’m not with you.” So there is a methodology to reaching out to your pal and asking the question “What was up with that phone call?” and to get an answer. Tell him we said hello."
Her reply:
"After some research. The phone call came on 1/19/21 at dusk. He was taken off life support on 1/19/21 at 4 p.m. I had no idea that he had passed until the second week of Feb when I tried calling him to tell him about my new grandson. That’s when I found out.
The phone call was light and he was so happy. And I don’t remember what we talked about except I said “Hey, we’ve been taking for over two hours. I’ve got to get in the house." He said, "Ok, Adios."
RIP Dennis
My reply:
"Very cool; again, thanks for sharing. It’s the kind of experience where it’s done casually and no one thinks twice about it - until they realize the person they were speaking to for over two hours on the telephone was no longer on the planet.
When I first started this research - and the more I think about it, the further the date backwards goes - I remember my aunt, a very religious person saying that her husband had appeared at the end of her bed and woke her up. When she saw him, she saw he was younger, healthier, happy. Just “stopped by to say I love you.”
And the phone rang, awakening her out of her “sleep” to tell her that he passed away. Her family didn’t believe this story when I told them - literally their own mother’s story. When we start to share stories, we find that people have had experiences across the board for a long time - if we look into literature or libraries, we find that people have reported these kinds of stories since people took pen to paper.
Oddly enough, he’s giving you this tool to “prove that life goes on.” By digging up the time stamp on your phone record (you can get them online easily enough) you can demonstrate that he clearly was in no shape to have a two hour phone call - off of life support (!)
I mentioned it to someone just now, and she said “I’d like to know if there was a record, it’s something I’d think is worth finding out.” I said “Well, people who are convinced life doesn’t go on, that consciousness ends cannot be convinced no matter what evidence they see.”
But maybe you can take a screen short of the time stamp. That would be fun.
Dr. Medhus said she didn’t believe in the afterlife until after he son passed, and called her on her cell. She told me there was “no number” but when she answered it, it was clearly her son’s voice saying “Mom, I’m okay.” Since then she’s spent years chatting with him via various mediums, but that initial phone call was pretty dramatic.
Now if we could just figure out what phone service Dennis was using, and create an app for that… we could all retire!"
Friday
Excellent case of Xenoglossy
Good Friday and The Second Coming
" What's so good about it?"
In the ongoing interviews we've had with people who report that they can access Jesus, or the frequency of Jesus, or the fellow himself, the comment has come up that "If Jesus returned to see what folks were doing in his memory, it would be celebrating the worst day of his life."That may have come from a comedian - but the point is apt.
The guy lives a life of love, loving, being loved, spreading love - and the symbol we use in his honor is from the worst afternoon of his journey. 'Hi Jesus! Look, I'm wearing your cross!" "Um, that's not my cross, actually, those Roman fellows made that thing."
Allow me to be heretical for a moment.
Tiziano Vecellio |
To be clear, scholars agree he was on the cross for a day.
Perhaps an afternoon. Scourging aside - there is a sequence of events in his story that can be examined. He's put on a cross alongside two other fellas who'd been there longer. Perhaps all week long as was the custom.
He's given some gall - wine mixed with myrrh - by a soldier and a few moments later appears to give up the ghost. (Passes out or is knocked out, it's a debate.)
Meanwhile Joseph of Arimethea is in Pilate's office asking for the "living body of Jesus" off the cross. (According to the original Greek and Aramaic, the word "Soma" he used was for a living person.) Pilate reportedly replies, "you can take the corpse down. (Ptoma) " And then they do. Estimates could be three hours, perhaps longer out there in front of everyone.
Soldier reportedly stabs him in the side - and water and blood flow out. (See Livor Mortis) Well, that usually indicates someone who is alive - as blood generally doesn't flow from dead bodies, but be that as it may, the next piece of the story is that he's met at the cave by Nicodemus with 75 to 90 pounds of Aloe and Myrrh.
Interesting detail - myrrh being the same thing brought to Jesus at his birth - but it represents not an ointment for the dead (else why bring it to Mary after she's given birth?) but an ointment for the living. A restorative. As it still is. Same goes for aloe.
Since there's never been a Jewish tradition of anointing the dead (despite the good book's admonition and claim there was) with any oils or paste or goop. They bury their dead before sundown so they don't have to pack them in salt or goop or smelling salts. Never have. Never will.
So the only logical thing is that our pal Nicodemus has brought along a whole bunch of bags of restoratives to this cave. Not "anointed the dead" products. Who needs 75-90 pounds to do that? I mean, can we say "overkill?" ("Nico! Enough with the ointments already! You could have brought a pound - but 75 pounds?")
And then what happens?
According to the guards, who reported to the Sanhedrin, "his followers came and took him to another cave." According to the gospels, they claim this was a lie - and that the guards, who were working for the Sanhedrin were covering up for being "asleep on the job." (That's a quote, literally. They were lying because they slept on the job.)
‘His disciples came by night and stole him away while we were asleep.’ Matthew 28:11–15
But hang on. The next day - when a posse shows up to find him - where'd the 75 pounds of aloe and myrrh go?
Every report in the good book has an empty cave. Empty except for a cloth. (Reportedly the shroud.) A couple of accounts mention angels (one account has them standing, another has them sitting. Must get tiring flying around all the time. But I digress.)
Never mind that the shroud shows someone who is alive (the dead don't bleed, and whoever was in the shroud was bleeding) and then when his pals show up at the cave, it's rolled away and he's gone... or in the garden disguised as a gardener - but either way - no one mentions the 75 pounds of aloe and myrrh. Or the bags they were carried in. All used on one afternoon? Really?
Where'd they go? Vanished into thin air? Lugged out the back of the cave? No one mentions them.
Based on dozens of interviews with people who claim to recall either a lifetime in that era, or being a witness to events on that day - it's not me claiming these reports, I'm only filming them - according to these reports from people both under hypnosis, not under hypnosis, or somehow accessing this "past life memory" - they claim the same thing.
That with the help of his pals, followers, some of the Roman legion, he was allowed to escape. He figured out a way and method to survive the ordeal. He used his incredible healing powers as well as conscious abilities to not get killed on the cross.
He didn't "escape" or leave the region immediately - people claim the aloe and myrrh was used to restore him prior to going to visit his apostles, which was at least 80 miles away from Jerusalem - so it's not like he left the cave on Sunday for supper with his pals. Reportedly, it took months for him to heal.
As reported, his followers were as astounded as anyone to see that he still existed.
Who else would stick his finger in someone's wound and say "Is this really you?" I mean, c'mon Thomas.
(Reportedly Jesus returned the favor to Thomas - in the "Acts of Thomas" from the Gnostic Gospels, Jesus tells Thomas to go to India to preach, Thomas refuses, so Jesus sells him to an Arab trader to work on his ship.
Thomas claims he was forced to go to India, where he landed in Kerala. The spot where he landed became an ancient church, a new one exists next door (despite the Catholic church claiming it didn't happen). Those Kerala Christians follow a form of Christianity closer to what Thomas preached.)
The St. Thomas Church near where he landed near the ruins of an ancient church built in his honor in Kerala. Lots of Christians not recognized by any Church (other than Thomas) |
That he had survived this ordeal, with the help of some pals, with the help of his ability to heal, with the help of his years traveling the silk road and learning esoteric yogas that allow for consciousness to be outside the body (see "the six yogas of Naropa" for examples) - they claim, I don't claim - they claim that he survived this ordeal.
So - the good news is - he reportedly survived.
But in retrospect it was a miracle that he did - survived a Roman crucifixion.
And to do it with style, grace and love for everyone involved (including his pal Judas, who in the Gospel of Judas claims that Jesus came to him and said in effect "You have to turn me in, in order for this ruse to work." "If you love me, you'll do as I have asked." Quoting Judas now.) The story has many levels of grace as shown.
(Never mind that the Qur'an reports he survived. He's called "Issa" or "Isa" in that book, as he was known throughout the Middle East. People in the reports about him have called him Esaiah, and even "Essie.") (See "Hacking the Afterlife" for those reports)
Hacking the Afterlife |
The reports continue that he traveled with his "wife" (Mary of Magda, reportedly wed in an Essene ceremony prior to his ordeals) and together with their family (at least one, later 5) found his way to Kashmir and lived out his days as a preacher who continued to speak about life everlasting, and how the flipside is a kingdom where everyone is welcomed. Again - not my story. I am reporting.
But that's another story.
This story for today is to say, when we think of "Good Friday" maybe it's good because we can challenge the narrative with this other story - how some pals figured out a way to save the life of their friend, and his unique ability to be a healer and someone who understood reality on a different level, he was able to live out the rest of his days in relative obscurity. Happy. Still preaching, albeit to a different flock.
During one of the sessions that I filmed of speaking with him, when asked "why are you allowing this alternate story to emerge of what happened to you?" he replied "It's not alternate if it's truth."
And then we have the people who claim he still exists - that he has come to them in dreams, visions, near death events - and given them new information. People who claim he's accessible to anyone - that he "never left" because no one "leaves" - we step outside this realm and into another one. That we can incarnate from, reincarnate from, and that he's done so since then.
Not gone. Just not here. |
It's not my belief, opinion or theory that people say these things consistently. I just film them doing so.
Here's an interview with him via Jamie Butler (from the Channeling Erik Website). I've filmed another interview with Jamie and him sometime later, have yet to post the transcripts of that interview. It's equally mind bending.
So when we think of Easter - perhaps think of the idea of resurrecting this fellow's life, becoming aware that he still may exist, that reportedly he's available to anyone who needs his help, that's he eager and willing to help anyone who reaches out for him.
It's an odd way of saying "Happy Easter" - because it includes the idea that we can all resurrect him by examining his story in closer detail.
That the "Second Coming" may be our awareness that he never left. Or that no one "leaves" - they return "home" to the "kingdom of home" where everyone reports a feeling of unconditional love.
But they actually use the word "home" instead of "heaven."
Again - I am just reporting.
Graphic from the shroud with filters |
When asked during an "interview" why it was that he had such a profound effect on people who have seen him since then (hard to breathe, tears, red faces) he said "I brought more of source with me to this lifetime. When people are near me, they feel that unconditional love." ("Hacking the Afterlife" Chapter 18: "People who claim to have met Jesus.")
To which I replied "Not so much with the Romans."
And the person who was accessing him in the interview (in "Hacking the Afterlife") said "He's laughing. He just laughed when you said that."
Which is a small Easter egg unto itself.
Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer, her dad, my dad and others
Monday
Hacking the Afterlife with Fellini, Giulietta, Marcello & Fiammetta
I had the impression that the great director Federico Fellini stopped by my place a few days ago - so I invited him to come by our class.
Fred and Giulietta |
I had studied his films in college, and later when living in Rome there were sightings of him all over the city. Later, I met a number of people who worked with him, including the Roman actress Fiammetta Baralla, the aunt of a fellow film school student Luca Bentivoglio. I got to know Fiammetta well, and her dog Romeo who was famous in her home town of Roma.
Me and Luana near Via Veneto |
As a result, I felt fairly confident that we could chat with Fellini, because Fiammetta knew him, worked with him - and I am a fan of his work, his wife's work - Giulietta Masina - and her work with Anthony Quinn. Some years later I worked with one of his sons Francesco. Once Francesco told me that his dad loved our film "Cannes Man." (For the record, Anthony Quinn was Mexican American as he mentions)
Francesco's dad |
So this is a Italian celebrity filled session - Marcello Mastroianni stops by as well... which would be incredible to any fan of Italian cinema, but for many - like Jennifer, they are only vaguely familiar with these icons.
Ma che fai? |
The discussion is fun and lively - given on March 11th, the day before my birthday. My birthday gift to myself was to have the amazing Jennifer Shaffer access people that I knew about and wished I might one day meet - and they report things that only those on the flipside could know.
Fiammetta Baralla |
Boh!
Wednesday
What or Who is God?
Question popped up on Quora today - with regard to why God would let people choose the lifetimes they've chosen, or if that was possible...
My answer, based on the flipside research:
"I suggest opening up the idea of what or who God is. Not a person, entity or programmer per se - but it shows up in the research as this: I brought a skeptic to a session to film a past life regression/between life session (with a Newton Institute trained hypnotherapist.)
On the way there I asked if she had any questions to ask if she met one of her guides: she said “I’m a skeptic. I’m an atheist. I don’t believe in any afterlife, I don’t believe anything you’ve told me about the research, I don’t believe in guides.” I said “So why are we doing this?” She said “I’m having surgery on my ovary, and the doctor said it would be a good idea because it will help me to relax.”
We got to Scott’s office (lightbetweenlives.com) and I handed over a couple of her questions; “What or who is god?” was the one she decided to “ask in case she got somewhere” even though she didn’t believe she’d go anywhere. I didn’t tell him she was a skeptic - I didn’t tell him anything, just set up the tripod and put the camera on it.
In 15 minutes we were in Arizona in 1820 and she was recalling the lifetime of this rancher (details I was able to historically verify) and what a cranky fellow he was. She had a wild session (It’s in “It’s a Wonderful Afterlife”) and then she met her guide in her Akashic library. (Akashic means "invisible" "energy" or "etheric" in Sanskrit) And the librarian said “I'm busy, but I’ll answer whatever questions you have.”
So Scott repeated her question.
Michael Newton - one of the hypnotherapist
who trained Scott De Tamble
The guide (speaking through her - she’s saying “He seems like he’s busy and can’t be bothered, but he says he’ll answer my questions.”) He said in reply “God is beyond the capacity of the human brain to comprehend, it’s not physically possible to comprehend.”
I thought that was the end of it - he was literally ducking the question. He didn’t use any gender or objective pov - just said “God is beyond anyone’s capacity - because it’s not physically possible for the human brain to comprehend what that means.”
But he continued;
“However, you can experience God by opening your heart to everyone and all things.”
Now I knew the person saying this was not a Buddhist, or religious - she remains a jaded skeptic of a Hollywood film producer, responsible for behind the scenes production on some big blockbuster films. To this day she doesn’t remember saying it - and that’s why I’m glad to bring a camera. Because I recorded her saying it.
Look at the sentence.
No reference to a being or person. No reference to a creator or creators - just a reference to an experience. And if we want to experience that experience - have that epiphany or that apotheosis - we can.
But to do so we have to do something literally impossible for humans to do.
Some do it with pets. Some do it with family members. Open their hearts in such a way that it constitutes “unconditional love.” Opening your heart to someone is literally that construct. No conditions on that love. Open heart to everyone.
But he added something interesting - and I’ve thought a lot about it since then. Not just “open your hear to everyone” - which could be heard on a pulpit (even when they don’t mean it - because it implies opening up hearts to people they fear or dislike or don’t agree with) - he said “open your heart to everyone and all things.”
So start there.
What does it mean to “open your heart to a thing?” Why would anyone suggest that “opening one’s heart” to an object - a table, a chair, a keyboard - this monitor - a plant, a blade of grass… how could that be an experience of God?
Because by becoming aware of how consciousness functions - how incarnation works - we get the awareness of the idea that quantum entanglement exists not only between objects created in the same space - but between all objects, all things, all people.
And that “holding of space” that atoms do - agreeing to hold space in a piece of wood, concrete, earth - those atoms are all there agreeing to occupy that space… and our awareness that we are connected to all things is like turning on a massive light that illuminates every drop of water in the ocean.
So the idea of “god” punishing, doling out warrants, judging people - isn’t in the research.
What is in the research is that people who claim to have an experience of “god” or being near “god” or being near someone who has more source energy than most - someone who embodies “unconditional love” - they are consistent in their reports of having an experience of “unconditional love.”
So in essence - in the sentence, this librarian on the flipside, via this jaded skeptic of a Hollywood film producer, has revealed that the “path to God” is not only good works, not only being kind or generous or compassionate - but the path to “knowing god” or “experiencing god” is by way of “opening their hearts to everyone AND ALL THINGS.” (Italics and caps added for emphasis.)
Easy to say but next to impossible to do on this planet of negative/positive, yin/yang, dark/light experiences - because opening our heart to all of them means that we love them all equally, embrace them all equally, and share that connectivity.
This is one of those answers that seems to be beyond sense - or all over the map, but inside of it is the “flipside code” as I call the subtitle for “Architecture of the Afterlife.”
It may offend those with a vested interest in a person, object or thing that they deify - but within the answer is the observation that we are all part of that thing we deify, we are all part of that wisdom and compassion, we are all part of the journey - all beings just walking each other home.
We do choose to come here - and the reasons are often based on multiple lifetimes, on knowing the person who asked us to show up over many lifetimes, on reasons that are beyond our stage persona’s ability to contemplate, but completely make sense to our higher self - the rest of our conscious energy sitting in the theater - applauding.
By the way, check out Dr. Greyson's book “After” as an example of how a scientist approaches data that doesn't fit the paradigm. Because its hard to comprehend doesn't mean we shouldn't examine. As he quotes social scientist Raymond Wolfinger: “The plural of anecdote is data.” (Pg 61 “After")
Friday
Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer and Ian Stevenson
Monday
Friday
Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer, Larry King and Lady Gaga's...
Saturday
Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer, Luana Anders and Larry King
Wednesday
Autism and the Flipside
A person on Quora asked the following question in the "Hacking the Afterlife" forum.
I am sharing the answer in the hopes it may help someone.
Do people with autism receive a compensation for their hardship in the afterlife?
My answer:
"Its a complicated topic but based on the research, our notion of reward and trauma is skewed. People who can refer to their previous lifetimes, either through hypnotherapy, meditation or mediumship claim we bring about a third of our conscious energy to a lifetime.
That the rest remains “home.” So the bulk or roughly two thirds of who we are is always home.
In the reports of people who recalled having a lifetime with some form of the spectrum, or accessing the higher self to ask questions about a sibling or relative, they report the same things.
That a person may have brought less to this lifetime. ( The number when asked “how much of your conscious energy was in that lifetime?” The answer is often around ten percent.) It's hard to discuss if one isn't aware of how incarnation works or consciousness functions.
But the most eloquent response I've filmed was during a conversation between a medium and an avatar, someone considered the epitome of love.
Question was asked about their granddaughter's autism and the response was “consider their life as a window of love. Their life is closer to source because its unencumbered by the normal things humans stress and worry about. Their journey is one of love on a more profound level.”
It brought to mind the Mormon tradition where they reportedly consider autistic children as “angels, closer to God" because of how they experience the world and how they encourage others to love unconditionally.
Based on the research, its the “older wiser souls" who volunteer for the more difficult journeys. So the person currently in this physically challenged journey has reportedly volunteered to help teach others lessons in empathy, compassion or love.
But again, its a temporary condition, as are all physical conditions. Consciousness doesn’t arise from the brain, and when people return home they are aware of why they made that decision to experience life in that fashion. My two cents."
Today, I heard this response from a mom on Quora:
"As a mom, I can speak for most parents of a low-functioning autistic, and often difficult children, the perpetual grief is never-ending with areas of reprieve. The parents may ask themselves, “what did I do in this life or any life to deserve such hardships?” We have moments of feeling punished even when we fiercely love and protect these helpless human beings. The thought of a pact with my son before we were mother and son is a view I’ve never had and thank you. “We are all just walking each other home” are words to live by."
So, this morning, I realized that in my most recent, yet to be published book, there's an "Interview with Jesus" where he addresses this topic. So I'm sharing this unpublished portion of an interview I filmed in 2016 just after publishing "Hacking the Afterlife" (and why it's not in that book but will be in an upcoming book.)
"Thanks for sharing your son… I can only point to the research. I found it interesting to learn how in Utah, they consider children on the spectrum as “angels closer to God.” Oddly enough - that appears to be accurate.
I’ll share part of this interview that I filmed with medium Jamie Butler, who was accessing “Jesus” in a room filled with attendees a couple of years back. It was after the book “Hacking the Afterlife” was published, so I didn’t transcribe or include it in the research… until recently when someone bugged me about it.
This is from my unpublished book “Finding Jesus on the Flipside” - I’m sharing it because, I found it an odd confirmation of what the research indicates in this area.
Again - we are in a room of people who have come to see medium Jamie Butler speak. When I went to see her on a Friday night, I told her that someone had emailed me and said “Jesus appeared in my kitchen last night while I was washing dishes and told me to tell you to go and see Jamie speak.” Which is an odd email to get- and even odder to discover Jamie was in my home town that weekend.
So I went and mentioned this odd message - and Jamie said “Well, come back tomorrow and let’s see if we can “dial him up.”
Jamie in the woods |
The following day, I filmed Jamie channeling a Victorian age woman (her muse, “Grace”) who often helps her with difficult conversations - and in this one, after about a half hour of her directly answering questions on Jesus’ behalf (personal questions that Jamie could not know, but he did) - one of the women in the audience asked the following question:
Question: “Could you help me understand what I can do to help my son who is autistic?”
Jamie as “Grace”: “He says for others to listen to this, “Because it is not just a mother’s love for a son, it’s a love to help another.” He says, “When they (a person with disability) are not having an equal experience of life that you are, when you can see someone struggling in ways, it cannot be compared to you and your experiences.”
He says “I bring this to your attention, because I want you, every time you want to reach out to mend, to heal, to help, to cure; to step back and look at your hands.” He said, “Notice that they’re empty. They’re empty for a reason; you are not to do the work for them.”
“You are to be present with them, you are to encourage them to find their answers. Now if you’re wondering how a mother to a young son is to give the power to a young child, what good would this do? Autistic children come into this life, and they keep their light closely linked to the beyond; to "home." They engage in this world as if they were on TV but sitting in a room at home in heaven.”
(Important to note; “Step back and look at your hands. Notice that they’re empty. You are not to do the work for them.” We come to the planet to experience life, and by taking over the steering wheel from our children they can’t learn to drive. Also, he mentions the word “home” – as in not being here, but back “home” where we all come from.)
“They’re not really on Earth. So for them to act like you, or to have experiences like you, that is not what is needed. That is not the level of success; the level of success is to be next to the person that holds the issue - the suffering, the disease, the mental imbalance, the need.”
“Advocate for them in the ways that they want, pay attention more to the child, to the person who needs, and not to what the doctors speak of. Though they are brilliant, though they are studied and very intelligent,” he says, “what is most valuable is (to ask) “What does the child need?”
“This experience is all for great reasons. It is not about suffering, and it is not to understand what loss is, it is to understand what light is, that is why this experience is in your life.” He says “Thank you. I love you.”
(Note: Hearing Jesus say that children with mental issues are “not really on Earth” is mind bending to hear. But it is in line with the research. People report we bring about “30%”’ of our conscious energy to a lifetime, but those who have dementia, mental issues use roughly “10%” of that energy. That the rest is “back home.” So this comment is in line with the research. I can’t emphasize how startling this is to hear him say. Also, Grace the channeler can be archaic. Staid is defined as “Sedate, respectable, and unadventurous. Old English from 1557.” Britannica)”
Again, I’m sharing this because some folks may need to hear it.
I found this passage to be in line with the other reports and research - the fact that I’m hearing it from Jamie, who is channeling “Grace” who is channeling “Jesus” - must give us pause. It’s interpretation layered upon interpretation. But what makes it life affirming, is that if we consider the possibility, it allows us to explore things in a different fashion.
My two cents. Here's Jamie Butler's webpage:
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