A recent chat about David Crosby from TUNING INTO THE AFTERLIFE

A reference to David Crosby in "TUNING INTO THE AFTERLIFE"

(From Graham Nash's page)


Chapter 11...


My comments are in italics, Jennifer Shaffer's replies are in bold. By "class" I'm referring to our pals on the flipside who gather to chat with us on the podcast HACKING THE AFTERLIFE. ( or )

RICH: Then I went to see that documentary about David Crosby, “Remember My Name.”

JENNIFER: I got that it was more about his drugs.

That’s right, his heroin addiction. So class, what did you guys think of that?

Roger Ebert just showed up. (Jennifer aside) I know you don’t like him.

(Note: Roger gave my film “Limit Up” a “thumbs way down.”)

I have no beef with Roger now, I’m always glad to see him. Thumbs up dude.

He just gave me the chills. He says “It’s going to hit more people because of the addiction – it was hidden, something hidden about it – people didn’t know how bad it was – he (Crosby) played Russian roulette every single time... (he did drugs).

After seeing the film, I sent David a note on social media. In the note, I mentioned Crosby’s girlfriend Christine Hinton who died at 21.  

When you said her name, Christine, I got an image of all these female robots. I don’t know why they showed me this – they showed me red lipsticked girls like those from the Robert Palmer video “Addicted to Love.”  That’s what showed up, but I don’t know where this is going.

You mean like a groupie thing?

Yeah; but they’re all robots.

Are you saying Christine was more like a groupie?

No. I think there were too many groupies that got in the way. The robots representing the groupies, it’s like he (Crosby) feels bad because he feels responsible for her death – they had a fight, she was crying, and went to meet someone...

They didn’t mention that in the film, but makes sense.

She said she caught him several times (with groupies)  – I know the crash wasn’t her fault... hold on...  she’s showing me it was her fault. Something about (it being) her fault.

In the film, they showed a news report, a horrific crash.

She says “No one did a toxicology report on her.”

So it may have been drug related? Well, either way, she died in a car accident, I think it was in Marin County.

She showed me something like a tree lined street, a street like Laurel canyon – curves in the road.

My point was that she’s still with him, and I think she was with him every step of the way – but I don’t know if she was as in love with him as he seemed to be with her.

It’s timeless. This (relationship) has been going on for awhile, they keep trying to get it right. She’s saying “They almost had it – I felt like she was told not to go but she did.”

On the other hand, his music wouldn’t have happened without her loss.

Which will then catapult him in the next life... hold on. Because he’ll want to do more music, that angst will be there so they have a better shot at it (next time around.)

He seems pretty driven in terms of music; it appears it’s the only thing that keeps him going. He’s lost all his friends because he’s a pain in the ass. I was thinking about Cass Elliot who appears in the film. Luana, do you want to bring Cass in?

She showed me that girl from “The Mamas and Papas.”

That’s correct. (Ding!) That’s her.

What? It is? I don’t know anything about them, or “The Mamas and Papas” but that’s what I got from her. She was in that band?

Yes, Cass Elliot. Funny she would show you the band – she is that band.

She’s very much different over there... now.

How to you perceive her there?

Flamboyant, like with peacock feathers; if she was wearing an outfit it would be with peacock feathers, sunglasses, crazy hair – “A lot taller over there,” she says.

(Note: The image in Wikipedia is her in peacock feathers, which I’ve never seen until uploading it for the book.)

Well, you appeared in three movies this weekend Cass; in “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” “Echo in the Canyon” and “Remember My Name.” David Crosby talks about you with great affection.

Feels like he was a father figure to her.

They were close friends.

She says “Everyone was jealous of their relationship... they all  thought...” She says “She for sure wanted to sleep with him.”

He said in the film “No one loved her the way she wanted to be loved.”

She says, “That’s correct.” She was like “I don’t care, I wanted to sleep with him anyway.”  It might have been daddy issues – Was he older than her?

He is now... she was much bigger, like a big person.

She’s showing me she’s not big anymore. She’s funny. She showed me “I look like the girl in Mamas and Papas...” and she was that person!

Michele Phillips is the other female member, I met her on that boat trip. She’s still on the planet, the other girl from the band. In “Echo in the Canyon” she reveals she had affairs with a lot of folks – says “I really enjoyed myself in the 60’s!” But I didn’t know how Cass had died, and Crosby implies it was heroin. My agent Joel knew Cass.

She said, “He was a lovely fellow... but he can be a pill.”

(Laughing). I’m sure he’s a pill to more people than me.

“That will change,” she said.

Okay, Cass, thanks for the note of confidence.

It feels like they she was in love with him when she was young.

You want to talk about that, Cass? Why did you check out so early?

“To get a new body,” she says (laughing.)

Cass, who was there to greet you when you crossed over?

Her cat or dog at first... then her grandmother...  on her dad’s side. She was there to greet her. She’s telling me she had thyroid issues, there was something wrong with her heart; that’s why she gained all the weight – it felt more like (it was) alcohol that killed her.

I don’t know – Crosby implied it was heroin.

She said “You could say that.” (Jennifer aside) I asked her “Was it heroin?” and she showed me a bunch of things – “Wrong place, wrong time, wrong drugs,” she said.

Who are you hanging out with over there?

“Jimi. (Hendrix) We’re planning our next lifetime.”

Who else?

She said “Luana. That’s why she’s here.” (Jennifer aside) Oh. That’s interesting. She showed me 7 different groups of lights – she showed me something profound... but just said “If you keep talking it won’t be.” (I zip my lip) She showed me (packets of light) all the musicians hang out together, then all the (people from the) medical field hang out together, all the industrial people, all the business minded people, all the great minds... they’re together.

And scientists?

Yes. There’s a philanthropy group which includes the scientists – she’s showing me 7 groups and there are subgroups.

7 groups? Are they in our class or just in general?

I’m hearing “It’s related to seven dimensions.” I’m asking “But can’t you cross back and forth between dimensions?” They’re telling me “You have to have a pass for one that takes you to different ones.” They’re saying “The class in and of itself has a lot of ones within these groups; Stephen Hawking, Carl Jung and then our musicians, so you (Jennifer and Rich) have passes... that’s funny – like the title of our book is “Backstage Pass!”  You have (to have) a pass, depending where you want to go. At this moment, they all have the intention of talking to you, so they’re (all here) together.  But they’re saying your idea to interview them over there is brilliant!

(Note: A lot to unpack in this answer. To paraphrase, “there are multiple dimensions.” Some have noted different realms during their near death experiences, some have noted them during deep hypnosis sessions.  In her session with Scott De Tamble, Jennifer saw herself on the “7th realm” coming down to “work on the 5th realm” and reported that we exist “in the third realm.”  This is the first time we’ve heard anything about “having a pass” to access them.  Not sure who doles out the passes (we know it’s Luana to get into this class) but interesting to hear.)

So you prefer hanging out with your groups over there?

She says, “It’s way more powerful hanging out together.”

But some claim they exist on the flipside by themselves, so why do those hang out alone?

She says, “Because they may irritate (the others) and piss people off. So you avoid being in your group, then you realize you miss them and go back.”

(Note: This sounds more like a Cass Elliott answer than something from Jennifer. First that I’ve heard of people “going off by themselves” to avoid interacting with their “soul group.”  But makes sense.)

What dimension would you prefer to hang out in?

She said, “The spiritual dimension.”

Flying around?

From what I’m getting, I don’t know if I’m interpreting this correctly; but “the top one,” without a sense of hierarchy.   I asked Luana “Where do you go?” and she showed me different dimensions, she showed me that’s the highest one (the “spiritual one”) – you get access and you are suddenly there, it’s not like you have to go anywhere to get there... but the most fun though, the dimension that is the most fun for her is the one with musicians and actors she says... I’m asking, “What would you call that group?” “The Entertainment Group” she says. She says, “We help people to have memories.”

 (Note: The man who produced 3 of my films, Jonathan Krane, called his company “Management Company Entertainment Group.” His wife, Sally Kellerman was Luana Ander's best friend.)

How so?

She says, “When you use music as part of your memory, when the memory is about music, so like when you see your first concert, or you hear a song that jogs a memory, it tags you to whoever you were during that point in time.”

Like frequencies in music? The same frequencies stimulate the frequency of the memory?

She’s saying, “Like you piano playing on the Millennium cruise boat created a music memory for many.”

One of our classmates, Penny Marshall was there.

She says, “She’s over there, yes.”

(Note: An unusual reference. She’s referring to me being invited to “play the piano” on a cruise ship by the head of New Line Cinema for the 2k event.)

Anything you want to tell your friends, Cass? What should I tell our mutual friend Joel?

She said, “Tell him – to get seeing glasses.”

You mean better reading glasses?

She’s saying, “Not glass - but glasses to see things etherically.”

All he’s got to do is read this book.

She’s saying, “He can’t hear people either, he can’t hear anything from the flipside – but he means well.”  She says, “He’s going to help you. You are prodding him and he feels that if he opens himself up to this research, he’s going to miss a lot of people – like the guy who told us that it’s too hard to realize there is an afterlife because how sad it made him feel.”

Yes, that was Harry Dean Stanton. Said he was an atheist because the alternative was too painful. So it’s too painful for Joel to open up this door?

Jennifer taps her nose. (for “yes!”)


This point has been made often by Jennifer. One doesn’t need a medium to access someone we loved who is on the flipside.

Luana was a pal of David's. I have no doubt that he's going to want to chat with us in the future, but am reprinting this from the book TUNING INTO THE AFTERLIFE.

Here's a reference to CHRISTINE HINTON

Here's TUNING:

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