An interview with John McCain on the Flipside

This is an excerpt from our next book; “Backstage Pass to the Flipside; Talking to the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer” BOOK THREE. (It will be out sometime this year.) 

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This past week, during my filming a discussion with Jennifer (a medium who works with law enforcement on missing person cases) we got a “message from the flipside” that was a request to “pass along some information” to a person’s daughter.  

I don’t know the daughter of this person, I didn’t know the father either, but I am going to post this information because well... a fellow on the flipside asked me to.  He also said to Jennifer, "you remind me of my daughter."

Jennifer Shaffer does look like his daughter.
This is a post for @MeghanMcCain daughter of #JohnMcCain. In light of her father making the request, I am going to post it on my website, as I can’t think of any other way for her to stumble across it.  (Apologies to anyone this might offend, but if you follow this blog, or have read “Flipside” “It’s a Wonderful Afterlife,” “Hacking the Afterlife” or “Backstage Pass to the Flipside: Talking to the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer” they will understand the following “edited” transcript.)

Senator John McCain and daughter Meghan
Jennifer and I meet once a week to “talk to the flipside.” It’s casual, but I put our meetings on film. I set up a camera in the restaurant we normally go to, and on the way to meet her I’ll ask “aloud” for a few people to come forward.  Sometimes she says their names instantly, sometimes it takes a few tries.

When Senator McCain had passed a couple of weeks earlier, I was curious if it was possible with talk to someone we had zero connection with. Generally we focus on people we have met, or folks on the flipside that our "group" has met during their lifetime.  (My only connection to the Senator was interviewing his chief of staff as background for my script “Three For the Road” in the 1980’s. She spoke highly of him even then.)

Jennifer’s replies are in normal font, my questions are in italics.

Young John
Jennifer: I just got an image of John McCain. 

Rich: Okay that was a person I invited today. (She got it without any guesses - just said "I see him" and I had said his name aloud to myself while driving to her office in Manhattan Beach) I have a bunch of questions for him. Should we talk to John or (the other person I had in mind) first? 


Okay. Well, John, I heard your voice in my head two weeks ago, after you passed. Might have been my imagination, but I had the impression you said “I understand you’re the guy I need to speak with.” I recognized your voice before I could figure out it was you.  So at that time I just said “Reach out to Luana, and you can join us in our class.” 
Luana by Monte Hellman

(Luana Anders is an actress whom I knew for 20 years, who passed in 1996. She started appearing in dreams or visions and eventually take me on trips around the universe.  I wondered “if she was able to visit me,” how I could visit her. 

I ran across the books of Michael Newton where people under deep hypnosis claim to be able to see people no longer on the planet, so I began a documentary about his work (“Flipside” on Gaia). Since then, I’ve filmed 45 deep hypnosis sessions where people all say the same basic things about the afterlife, and I’ve done 5 sessions myself (and seen and heard the same things as well as visiting Luana.) 

In my books I compare these accounts with the thousands done by Dr. Helen Wambach and Michael Newton over their careers studying these cases.  They all say the same thing; “we don’t die.”  (“We aren’t gone, we just aren’t here anymore.” They claim we “return home” (their words)

They claim “We still exist, but no one believes we do.” When I began to work with the medium Jennifer, she observed Luana was helping facilitate our conversations with people who’d crossed over. (Mutual friends of Luana and me; Bill Paxton, Harry Dean Stanton and others.)  It was during one of these interviews where Tom Petty said Luana was the “holder of the backstage pass” – like the people who wanted to speak to us had to get in line, and get her permission to do so. Hence the title of the books.) 

Luana Rockefeller plaza circa 1985

Jennifer: “I’m the host,” Luana said. “Yeah.”

Rich: John, who told you I was the guy to speak with? Or were they talking about our class over there on the flipside?

They’re talking me about New York city, one of your relatives – feels like a guy.

Someone in my family who was in the Navy? I’m curious, because my grandfather was assistant to the Secretary of the Navy during World War II; maybe he knew John’s father.

It’s your dad.

Oh, okay. Well, my dad was in the Navy as well, a Lt. during World War II. (Graduated from midshipmans school in NYC, lived in DC where he met my mom) So John what do you know about our class so far?

“I know that we can talk to you this way.”

Okay. Who was there to greet you when you crossed over?

He said “his first love.” He’s showing me a woman around 30; she had a bouffant hair, her hair is blonde...

Someone who crossed over before him?

It felt like a grandmother at first... maybe his first love was his mom... hold on. 

John with mom and dad (Mom's 106, her identical twin sister
Rowena passed in 2011)
(His mother had an identical blonde twin sister Rowena who passed away in 2011. His mother is still alive at 106.) 

Was John close to Ronald Reagan? I just felt Ronald Reagan...

So Ronnie was there to greet you? 

It’s like they’re all over there... He says, “There’s a time limit in terms of our ability to help our country, to help what’s going on with Trump.”

Well, I prefer to not focus on that fellow right now; we’ll get there, but I want to be specific about your journey. Who was there to greet you? This blonde woman and Ron?

Reagan was later. (Then) He was greeted by his regiment... I see the number 51 – number on his plane, or something?

(When this was recorded, it was 51 years since he had been shot down over Vietnam).

He was shot down as a pilot a couple of times.

I didn’t know that. 

That’s why I’m here for odd confirmation. Are some of these people you were greeted by... were they people you...


People that you were in prison with? He spent 5 years in prison in Hanoi... I’m asking if some of those people are with you now.


Are some of your captors with you now?

“Not yet.”

Why not?

“They’re learning... it’s a process of learning, they’re still learning... about the whole process.”

You were a warrior and some of the people you killed were part of your journey as well. And your victims, people you killed in Vietnam also participated in your journey or path... as I understand it. Are any of your victims there that you’ve met? Luana help me with this, please, or is that a tough question?

“It’s not a tough question.” He showed me his life review – the people he killed were part of that life review; like he didn’t party at first... When he went back (home), the life review for him happened instantly.

Did you recognize the people in your life review? Who was your guide?

I’m seeing a picture of Abraham Lincoln.

Mid debate

Somebody like Abraham Lincoln? Or is that a joke? He does have a sense of humor. John are you joking about Abe Lincoln being one of your guides?

“It is true, yes, I’m joking but it’s true.”

You mean “Yes it’s funny, but it’s accurate?”

Jennifer taps her nose. 

(Note: People often report about "life reviews" in both near death experience research (see for details) and in the deep hypnosis sessions. ("Councils" in Michael Newton's research) We all have guides, sometimes our guides "look just like so and so."  In this case, we're hearing that he actually is "so and so."

As I’ve reported in the books, part of our work is not judging whatever “comes forward.”  We might not understand it at first, or we might have to spend some time breaking it down or “unpacking” what she is seeing, but in this case, we had begun “interviewing” whoever showed up as a visual during a session.  

I have no way of knowing if what these historical figures are saying is accurate, but sometimes a casual detail leads to a larger truth.  In that vein, the following should be filtered though that “needs to be further examined" frame. Later we interview this fellow, who he says was his guide.)

So, hey, can you bring Abe forward?

Jennifer shakes her head in wonder... – “Yes.” (Jennifer aside) I’m trying to not judge it; I read something about the White House being haunted today.

It is haunted... Especially the Lincoln bedroom.  I’ve heard many of those stories... so John, before you invite Abe to join us, do you recognize anyone here in our class?

He showed me... Tom Petty. 

Did you know Tom? You knew him from before? 

“Yes.” There’s got to be a song or something connecting them.

(The song is “I Won’t Back Down” which Senator McCain used during the 2008 campaign, but Tom stopped Bush from using in the 2004 campaign. I’ve edited out the conversation we had with Abe Lincoln, it will be in the book version. Unusual to say the least.)

So John, the funeral for you was pretty dramatic; two Presidents spoke.

“Yes.” (Jennifer: aside)  I loved how his daughter said “America has always been great.” I was trying to follow all of her words, it was like ... I’m asking him; “Was it fun planning your funeral?” He said “I like to have control of everything.”

Did you like their rendition of “Danny Boy?”

“It was off key.”

I read that you used to play that for people on your ranch.

Jennifer taps her nose (meaning "spot on.") He says “That person (singing at his funeral) was very nervous.”

Anything you want us to pass along to your family?

His wife has a lot more to say. “My daughter’s going to be fine,” he says. “They’re so much alike...” He says he’s worried about his wife.

John you weren’t able to lift your arms or comb your hair... I know you got through that, but is there anything you want to say about that?

“It made me stronger.” 

A diamond in the rough; a piece of coal that turned into a diamond later?

He says “He wanted to help people on a bigger playing field.”

The rest of his life he fought torture and helped the reconciliation in Vietnam... and helped people worldwide. Speaking of torture, what do you want to say about the current president? From your current perspective?

He just left. He walked away... and Luana came in.

What does that mean Lu? It’s ok if he doesn’t want to talk about it.

He does – he went back and brought back a contract, or a scroll.

From his akashic library? Is this John’s scroll or Trump’s?

Okay, I’m getting a lot of information, I have to make sure I’m not...

Don’t worry, just say it and I’ll ask questions about it.


Is this a scroll from John’s lives?

He showed me that he needed to feel the pain and torture and he needed to feel the bonding... so when I say he has the same energetic pattern (as someone who suffered for compassion) he showed me Gandhi – it wasn’t that he was Gandhi – but the end point would be the same for both of them.

(The term “Akashic record” is a loose term; it’s just a sanskrit word for “library.” Michael Newton reported them in his cases, I've filmed many people under hypnosis describing a “library” where they could access their life histories (or in this case a "contract.")

My grandfather, National Commander of the American
Legion (center) waiting to meet the King of England
Rich: So John, your choice for choosing a difficult lifetime... that choice was about your choosing a difficult lifetime to learn those lessons – so you could turn those coals into diamonds?

Jennifer: He just showed me the same stripe or medal that Tony Stockwell showed you... the star medal.

(During an interview with the medium Tony Stockwell, we visited his council (a group of guides or teachers that help evaluate lifetimes).  In Tony’s case, I asked if his guide was wearing anything; he said a “star.” I asked if he meant badge, he said “It’s a literal star, made of light. Something I've earned.”  Tony remembered a tragic lifetime in Victorian England (details of which I was later able to verify.)

The medal he earned; the star?

John says he has 3 of them now...

So what do the other two represent, different lifetimes? Or did they all come from this life?

"They all came from this lifetime." Because he felt the torture, he then tried to correct it, and then he tried to stop it.  Three different medals.

(Interesting detail to note and not something Jennifer is familiar with in her day to day work. I’ve been to many councils and interviewed them about various journeys, but have never run across anyone who earned medals for “three levels of difficulty” in one lifetime.)

Anyone in class want to comment about what John is saying? 

They all started clapping. I think they’re clapping because I got it, or because we understand it. 

So John, you’ve had other lifetimes where you were a soldier in war?

A general.

Were you part of that energy of wartime? 

"We’re all lights right?" He showed me – when you said “that energy” – all the lights lit up – so they can find each other.

(Note: As we’ve heard; musicians tend to hang out with musicians on the flipside, people from politics hang out with others who’ve done that kind of work, doctors, lawyers, healers, etc.  They “gravitate” (funny word to use) to others who’ve done the same kind of work, who radiate on the same frequency. Often what bonds them is compassionate work, or healing work, or in this case, military and politics.)
So they find the frequencies. Okay, thanks for explaining that!

(Another day, another session.)

Jennifer: I just saw Ronald Reagan. Why did Ronald Reagan just stop by?

Rich: Well, let’s talk to him.

And Nancy is here as well. (Listens) What did Nancy call him?

(Nancy made a comment about her being the "one with the psychics" and said she "should have been the first person we sought out." I told her she'd have to speak with Luana about when we could interview her.)

"Ronnie." I think he came forward because earlier we were taking to John McCain, you were one of the people who greeted him when he crossed over. Let me ask; how does Ron look now – old or young?

Young, he looks like a cross between – like when he was an actor; there’s a photo with smoke in the room from a black and white photograph.

I know you and Nancy got married in the little brown chapel in Studio City near to where Luana lived.

“It was so simple, just very few people, a lot of people on her side but not on his,” he says.

(Note: Married for 52 years, the team started their life together as husband and wife on March 4, 1952 at the Little Brown Church in Studio City... the Reagans' was a simple wedding, witnessed by best man actor William Holden and his wife. The ceremony was followed with a cake cutting in the chapel's anteroom. From the Church website)

What’s your opinion about what’s going on in politics now?

He’s having me look up (in the sky) – I’m trying to understand... I saw all of them, like a collective answering that question, about “what’s going on now,” or “what do they think about now?” I got “checks and balances” - I got the scales... that it will take years to rebalance. I asked if its “right or wrong”... (They’re saying) “It will take years to rebalance.”

Monty Python. Waiting for change..
Are you planning your next incarnation yet, Ronnie?

“No. Just taking it easy.”

You had Alzheimers, tell us, what you are doing now?

He loves horses; he’s with horses.

He likes to ride around?

“It’s a different kind of riding. It’s safer.”

(Note: We often ask what people are up to on the flipside. They reply that “doing something” is a mental construct, that if “you’re good at math” you can create the object that you remember from being on the planet. We’ve heard people describe visiting white sandy beaches, going to racetrack and “playing golf.”  When we asked Garry Shandling “How many holes do you play? 36?” He said “Two. The tees are just very far apart.”) 

What horse do you ride...

Her name is Delilah... sounds like.

Anything you want us to tell your kids Patty and Ron jr.?

“Thank you .. for taking care of the animals.”

Another day.... another session. This one from last Tuesday.

Rich: Anyone else who needs to speak to us, Luana? Who else wants to come through?

Jennifer: "Maverick." I can't think of his name;  I'm just going to call him Maverick.

John McCain?


(This is 2 1/2 months after his passing. 2 months since he "showed up.")

What does John want to tell us?

He just grabbed a chair and sat down. He says he “Won't waste his time talking even talking about Trump; he's way beyond that." (She listens, laughs) He says, "It's waking up a lot of people (however), he's doing us a great service... People that never considered going into politics are now very involved, so he's done us a favor. But it should end soon." (Listens)  He's talking about you Rich, he showed me you in my mind's eye. (Jennifer listens) He says, "You need to figure out a way to get these excerpts (of our conversation) to his daughter, she's having dreams or something with that as well. 

His daughter Meghan?

The one on TV. He says "The one that likes Trump.. but don't mention Trump."

Okay. I’m not a fan, but I'll do that. I'm happy to post these online, if it's the only way to try to reach out.

He says he likes me calling him Maverick. You know me (Jennifer speaking), I'm not going to tell you to send it to her... But he's tried to butt-in a number of times (while you're speaking). 

It's a good name for him... so Mr. Maverick... so you want me to reach out to Meghan, what do you want me to say to her? Give her a sign for her to observe to look for, to validate that you're there?

I'm talking to him at the same time as you're talking... he's showing me serious things. He says she's trying to decide if she's going into politics. (Pauses) He's encouraging her to go into politics.

How can we show her it's you telling her to do that?

She had a dream about him and wrote it down - information that seemed like it came from him and she wrote it down.

Okay, what's a way to tell her that?

He's going to connect with her again tonight.

So you want me to say "You're father came through and said the following..." But what's a code word so that she knows it's coming from you and not some nutball on the net? What did she call you?

"Dad." (Jennifer listens) Something with a teddy bear. I just got shown a little teddy bear, don't know if there's a connection there... it's light brown. Felt like it had pinkish overtones.

Something that you gave to her?

Either something he gave to her... I see her looking like a little kid. Feels like whenever he traveled, she had that around. Either a bear or a bunny.

A bear or bunny, pick one.

"A bear."

That's proof to her that you're still around? 


She still has it?

"At least in her mind... I don't know if she still has it."

How about your favorite song you used to play off your balcony on your ranch?

I'm hearing "You've Lost that Loving Feeling."  And then I'm hearing Neil Diamond too; "Coming to America." Hold on. Who's the one that um... who's the daughter that would sing the same song as her dad?

Natalie Cole. "Unforgettable?"

Look up "Unforgettable" for his daughter.

(John had eclectic tastes in music, he was a fan of Neil Diamond (who isn’t?) but I couldn’t find any specific reference to these tunes. However, if Meghan reads this at some point, perhaps she will.)

Okay, I will pass it along. Class was that okay for Maverick to butt in the way he did? Jump the line? 

Luana is saying "He had special clearances."  She's showing me it's very orchestrated over there.

Not sure how I can tell this to Meghan... what's she going to run for?


Of Arizona? Okay, well, from a flipside perspective Meghan might be a great politician.

I asked him if his daughter was going to be the first woman president, and he said "No" and showed me someone else. That's weird.

(I won’t repeat this prediction because we all have free will to change our minds, or screw things up. It might be a likely outcome for the person that came to mind for Jennifer, but to avoid being in the prediction business, let’s just say that his choice was a logical one.)

She's struggling with giving up her freedom to do that (run for President).

I can't blame her. Okay, you heard it here first; John McCain says his daughter should run for Governor, and says he's predicting (who) will run and win the Presidency. (Even though we've learned time and time again that the future is not predictable, there are only "likely events."  But for an odd endorsement, doesn’t get any better than "John McCain is rooting for you from the flipside!")  Okay thanks everyone. 


Note: As Jennifer says often “It’s not my job to make people believe there is an afterlife, my job is to just report accurately what I’m seeing or sensing.” In my case, one could argue that I’m diametrically opposed to what the GOP has come to stand for, and am posting this only because 1. John McCain asked us to. 2. Did I mention that John McCain asked us to?  “Sorry dude, I didn't like your politics on this side” doesn’t fly in light of this research.

It’s interesting to note; we know how much John McCain hated the current resident of the White House, we know that he loathed everything about him, but it’s also accurate what he says about “how many people have responded and decided to run for office based on him.”  So that’s worth noting. Sometimes the events that occur in front of us, are inspiration for us to change them.  

I have no idea if Meghan McCain has any designs to run for office.  I thought it was pretty interesting how specific he was about what office she should run for (Governor of Arizona). I do know that it’s important to realize that our loved ones are not gone; they just aren’t here. She may find zero, nada, nothing about this report that is accurate – including the teddy bear that he cites and proof that it’s him, and that “she’ll understand that.”

That may be a future reference – that some teddy bear will appear in the future to her, a gift, a toy, or it could be a distant memory.  I don’t know. I didn't come up with it, and it's what Jennifer saw.

What I do know is that this research "isn't for everybody."  Not everyone signs up to have a lifetime where they know how it ends.  So if this post offends anyone, everyone, my apologies - if it inspires someone to speak to their loved ones, I can offer that we hear the same things often: "We know we still exist even though you don't believe we do."

As noted in previous posts, we've been told from someone on the flipside that it's not hard to communicate with loved ones no longer here: 1. Say their name. 2. Ask them questions. 3. When you hear a response before you can form the question, then you'll know you're in contact.  Simple, elegant. Didn't come from me or Jennifer, but now you know.

 As I’ve noted before, I’ve verified a number of details of things that Jennifer has reported from the flipside, including “new information” from people over there that no one here knows, but after being made aware of it, I am able to forensically prove it to be accurate. (And I do so in my books “Hacking the Afterlife” "It's a Wonderful Afterlife" "Flipside" and “Backstage Pass to the Flipside: Talking to the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer.”

We were at the end of a two hour filming session, when she said she saw “Maverick,” and he had something to say.  This is not a theory, belief or opinion about the afterlife; I’m filming what people say under deep hypnosis or through a medium and reporting that; in this case filming an interview with a medium who works with law enforcement nationwide on missing person cases. So I hope Meghan sees it, but it's okay if she doesn't.  As for Maverick:

Mission accomplished.

Thumbs up.


Luana Anders speaking from the flipside

Speaking of Luana

Luana portrait by Monte Hellman

Luana Anders popped onto my facebook page this morning. 

Could have been an algorithm, could have been because Jennifer and I were chatting with her YESTERDAY.  

Jennifer Shaffer and I meet up weekly, I film our interviews, and for fans of our work, Luana is the "holder of the backstage pass" (as dubbed by Tom Petty during a session) that allows us to speak to various individuals who still want to communicate with their pals back on the planet.  (If I know the family of the person involved, I reach out to them the best that I can, if I don't, I'll post something on their instagram page or social media page, figuring if their loved one on the flipside has the ability to tap their shoulder, they'll point to it and say "that's from me.")  

If they don't see it, or don't believe it, that's fine - as I'm fond of saying "Not everyone signs up for a lifetime where they know how the play ends."  It's okay to believe that life ends at death, but as Harry Dean Stanton said to us (in the 2nd chapter of the first book) "Believe in the possibility of an afterlife, then you won't spend any time like I did arguing about it."

(Harry had a number of verifying, validating things he said during his interview, which has been mentioned here in earlier posts, but suffice to say, I knew him, knew who he was talking about, and the friends he asked me to reach out to, all were going through exactly what he observed from the flipside.) 

In honor of those we've chatted with I try my best to let their loved ones know they AREN'T GONE, THEY'RE JUST NOT HERE. They still exist, albeit on a different wavelength but still want to stay in touch with them. (We were given a simple formula for folks to use on their own; 1. Say their name. 2. Ask your questions 3. When you hear the answer before you can form the question you'll know you have a connection. (I'm told saying their name, looking at a photograph, listening to their voice is a way of "strengthening the signal.") 

In honor of Luana and her continuing help with navigating the flipside, here's the Foreword from our book "Backstage Pass to the Flipside; Talking to the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer."  Might as well have Luana's name in the title - she's doing the same work that Jennifer is doing, only on the other side.   


"Backstage Pass to the Flipside: Talking to the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer" by Luana Anders
My and Luana in Rome, laughing and having cappuccinos. For fans of "Flipside"
this is the photo that was on my fridge when James Van Praagh said live on air
on the Charles Grodin show "You have a photograph on your refrigerator that is the
essence of your relationship" - the same words I said when I put it up after her passing.

"Forewords are an unusual introduction to the material inside a book. In “Flipside: A Tourist’s Guide on How to Navigate the Afterlife” Harvard PhD Gary Schwartz offered to write the foreword, where he said that “self science” was something Einstein had done, and he felt my “journey into the Flipside” should be considered as part of that canon.

In “It’s a Wonderful Afterlife volume one” Charles Grodin suggested in his foreword that he didn’t quite know what to make of my forays into the afterlife but enjoyed my passion for them. In Volume two, Galen Stoller, a young man who passed away some years ago wrote an eloquent foreword from where he is now, detailing what he wanted to impart about the journey. “It is a wonderful afterlife,” he wrote (via a medium), “but only because “it is wonderful to be alive.”

I suggested my pal and compatriot in this endeavor medium/intuitive Jennifer Shaffer should write the foreword, as she’s the conduit for this research. But while we were discussing this, Luana Anders, my friend and inspiration for this journey (who passed in 1996 after our being best friends for 20 years), suggested (through Jennifer) that she wanted to write her own foreword to this book.

(Note: Luana, besides being an actress who appeared in 30 features (including “Easy Rider”) also appeared in 300 TV shows. Her film writing credits include “Fire On The Amazon” and “Limit Up” written with yours truly.) At some point in this book, she suggested I try “automatic writing.” I sat in front of the keyboard, put my fingers on the keys and thought; “Type whatever comes to mind.” I opened myself up to the possibility I could write something on her behalf:)

Tom Pittman who took this photo, was an actor and contemporary of Luana's, but died in a car
accident like James Dean - Tom was wearing the same jacket and driving the same
Porsche as Dean when they found him up on Mulholland Drive in the 60's.

“First, let me be clear. Richard is not talking through me. I am talking to him through Jennifer (usually). She does her best to make it easy for him to understand what I’m trying to say, and I’m doing my best to make it easier for him to understand. But it is leaning in from both sides.

(Note: Like the 11:11 example Luana cites later in the book.)

At the moment, Richard is typing this sentence and has put his mind on virtual hold (he claims it’s a meditation technique) to allow “me” to take over his typing. Some people call this “automatic writing.” Doesn’t mean it’s any good. It just means it’s automatic. No brain stem involved.

I’d would like to point out that chanting “Nam Myoho Renge Kyo”* saved my life. I know that Richard used to tease me about it, make fun of it – and I’m grateful for that because it allowed me to laugh about it as well.

(Note: Luana would do her “daimoku” (“Nam-myoho-renge-kyo” prayer) in the car on the way to an event. She’d chant at lightning speed, decades of practice, which sounds a bit like “homina homina munya homina.” I would imitate her and she couldn’t help but laugh. Chanting helped her navigate her fear of parties. Luana was an incredible listener, and on more than one occasion, I’d leave her for ten minutes at some tony event, come back to find a close friend sobbing, pouring out his/her life to her. She had incredible compassion, even as a listener.) (*SGI/NSA Buddhist chant.) (You can see her chant in the film "The Last Detail" in a scene with Randy Quaid.)

But it saved my life. I never would have made it as long as I did on the planet without being able to focus on something else so dear to me. Saving humanity by chanting about it. If you’re not familiar with it, if you’re suffering, I recommend it as a form of meditation and healing. You pray for someone else and you are healed. Simple as that.

I suggested that I write the foreword to this book because after all, much of it is about me – and I have little to say in the matter. Believe me, it was as shocking to me as it was to my class to have him (Richard) appear as he did – willy nilly – in front of my classroom over here. He just started speaking out loud as if was completely normal that some ghostly avatar would appear in front of our class and start blathering away about his “research.” **

(**Note: It was during my first deep hypnosis session where I found myself standing in her classroom, interrupting it. Everyone turned in shock as I appeared. She looked at me as if to say “WTF?” She looked about 20 years younger than when I knew her – at least 10 years before I met her. She looked embarrassed to see me standing in the class talking – but I continued to speak. (as reported in Flipside))

But I applaud him for it. He’s got cojones this boy. I can call him a boy – because I know him better than most. He’s endearing... to me and to others. But at his core, he’s that little boy that I’ve known for a long, long time.

Me and Luana around the time we met at USC
assigned to the same screenplay for a script class.
It’s important work that he is doing, important work that he and Jennifer are doing. To help us communicate with all of you back there on the planet, and to open up people’s minds about the ability to do so. It’s happened not because of any great cataclysmic event that’s in the offing – it’s happening because it’s time. It’s time to shift consciousness, to shift gears to understand the nature of reality.

It’s going to upset some people, but we’re on top of that as well. It’s going to liberate most people. Help most people. And ultimately turn out to be completely accurate when others figure this process out.

Some may ask “Why now?” Some may ask “Is this a good thing to do to communicate with our elders and loved ones who’ve gone on?” Well, we still have things to communicate to you, we still have thoughts, dreams, feelings and hope for humanity – because we consider ourselves part of your journey as well. You may not think of us that way – but we think of you that way.

So please, allow me to offer this small token of appreciation for the fellow who is typing this sentence. Yes, you are a goofball Richard, you are someone that has vexed and frustrated me during my life, but also during other lifetimes.

But you also taught me how to laugh, how to let go, and how to be more of myself while I was on the planet. I know what my path was about, I know why I had to depart early – eventually you’ll come to know these reasons as well. Suffice to say it’s okay not to “know everything” or “why everything happens” but it is good to trust in the idea that they do “happen for a reason.”

And let’s focus on that for a moment – “focus on reason.” What is reasoning? Taking the evidence presented in front of us, and trying to figure out what it means and how it can help me in my journey. We reason things out because that’s what we do with our minds... we also can go “beyond reason” and allow things to happen to us, or for us... and that’s how I want you to consider what you’re about to read. That this goes “beyond reason.” And there’s a reason for that as well.
Circa Dementia 13 in the 1960's.
Okay, I’m telling Richard to stop now – and to let our mutual friend Jennifer go over this text and see what “resonates” or rings true for her. After all – it’s those “feelings of resonance” when we get a shiver of truth, or when we get a feeling that we’re actually learning or talking about something that’s beyond our logic and thought, beyond our mind... that we truly are able to learn things... about the nature of reality and about the nature of ourselves. I’m fortunate because Richard can type at the speed of thought – I’m watching him do this as we speak, and I suggest a plethora of ideas and he’s able to blast them onto the page.

One more thing about love. I love you all. I’m not just saying that as a phrase – but I want you to really feel what I’m saying. I LOVE YOU. I send my heart and soul and unconditional love to you who are reading this sentence. I hope and pray that you receive this love because love is what moves this universe, it is the giant engine of who we are, it’s what or who God is, it’s what or who we are. If you can wrap your mind around love – that’s great – if you can’t, that’s okay too, just open your heart up to the idea of it.

Love yourself. Love your neighbor. Love your enemy. Love the idea of love, of creating love, or spreading love of being loved and giving it in return. That’s about all I have to say on the topic except... “See you on the flipside.” (To quote a corny phrase too often used by a close friend of both of ours.)

PS: (It’s) Just a few days after my birthday – I would have been xxx age in your realm – but over here – not such a big deal. Which I prefer. Enjoy the cake."

Written (as if channeled) by Luana Anders (Foreword from "Backstage Pass to the Flipside: Talking to the Afterlife with Jennifer Medlyn Shaffer")

Here's Luana with Mick Gough when
they did Broadway together in the 1960's.
We spoke to this pal of hers yesterday. Michael Gough (original Batman's butler)
Luana and I went to see Mick in "Breaking the Code" on Broadway,
on our way backstage to find him, we walked across the pitch black stage
and stumbled into him. This photo taken a few minutes later.

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