"It’s easy - just lean forward, push the button. Record. Transcribe. Compare what one person says to the other. If it was imaginary, it would show up in terms of random thoughts, entrenched beliefs or cryptomnesia - something someone said or heard or believed to be true."
What shows up in the research is consistent and reproducible - two hallmarks of science.
My observations; At first it’s startling.
Then a bit infuriating. (“Really? People have been making up this fear based stuff for millennia and no one called them out on it?”)
Then humbling. (“Well, if all roads lead to home, then everyone’s on the same path, it’s just a matter of degree. So there’s no point in trying to change anyone's opinion on the topic.”)
Sometimes revelatory. (“Many of us have had lifetimes on other planets, we should stop using the term “alien” because we’re all aliens.) Who can you report this to?
I just came from a two hour session where I spoke to two individuals on the flipside via the medium and my pal Jennifer Shaffer.
One person was/is a close friend who passed, whose last conversation with me was about there “being no afterlife.” The second with a famous person who recently died who spoke fluent Italian.
I conducted his interview in Italian.
This was way outside her usual methodology - which would be for her to repeat (to herself) every question I ask “in English” to the person on the other side.
But in this case, I’m asking the questions in Italian - a question that she had no idea what I’m asking and could not repeat.
And then the person on the flipside puts an image into her mind, a response to my question and she responds by describing that image.
For example, I asked; “Have you reached out to your wife since your crossing over? If so, how do you do that?” ("Hai parlato con la tua moglie dopo sei morto? Come fa cosi?")
Jennifer Shaffer said (in English) “He’s showing me ice cream.” I thought about it for a moment.
I said to him in Italian, “Are you trying to show her ice (giaccio) or ice cream (gelato)?” (Quale' parola voi usare? Giaccio or gelato?" She replied “He say’s it’s the first one you said.” (“Giacchio” means “ice.”) I thought about that for a moment.
I then asked in Italian, “Are you telling Jennifer that you give your wife chills when you’re reaching out to her and that’s how she knows it’s you?” And before I could finish asking the question, Jennifer tapped her nose. (Her gesture for "yes!")
“He’s saying that’s correct, whatever you just said.”
To reiterate, I'm interviewing a person on the flipside who was an American, but fluent in Italian, because he was raised there as a child, and he is responding to my questions by "projecting an image" to Jennifer (using an international language, “her mind”) and she is responding to me in English.
(This fellow wasn’t an Italian, I just knew he was fluent in Italian, so I used it as an experiment to prove beyond any doubt, it was actually him.)
Jennifer had met and knew the person we were speaking with - but had no clue that he spoke Italian. But I did. We had mutual friends, and he later told me some private information about those friends.
And we got about an hour interview with him in this same fashion. (To be in our next book "Backstage Pass to the Flipside Book 3")
He's not gone. Just not here.
The other person we chatted with today was a close pal who passed away recently after a long bout with cancer. He appeared at first as a famous guitar player to her (whom he resembled, and he did play guitar - we played often together.) She at first said she was "seeing this famous guitar player."
When I asked him to come forward, I asked if this was the famous guitar player, or my friend who played guitar?" She asked "Well, did he look like this guy?" He did. He stepped into our interview chair.
I asked him to describe to her our last conversation together and she said “He’s telling me you are hard headed.” I said “That’s correct; we had an argument where I argued that life goes on and he said “I’m not buying it.” I tried to tell him I wasn't "selling it" but citing the research. He still was "unconvinced" there was an afterlife. I was hard headed by not letting him have his own opinion on something that he was fearing was going to happen to him. "He didn't want to think about it, so he didn't want to accede the point."
However, I asked him to give me something to say to his wife and family that would prove "beyond a shadow of a doubt" that it was him - that he still exists. He jokingly said he wasn’t going to give me anything specific other than “tell them I said thank you and I love you and will be with you forever.”
I asked why and he finally admitted he wasn't going to give me anything specific because 1. they wouldn't believe it anyway, and 2. then he would be allowing me to “win the argument.”
Which is pretty funny when you think about it.
I'm not reporting who these two people are at the moment, because it's not the right time to do so - neither family has had a chance to have a memorial service for their loved ones. Both were and are beloved by everyone who knew them, but it was fun to chat with them today and prove, at least to myself through the amazing medium Jennifer Shaffer, that these folks still exist.
Happy Valentine's Day. Love love.