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Sunday

Happy Birthday on the Flipside Bill Paxton - here are three mediums talking to Bill Paxton

 Jennifer Shaffer and I have been chatting with Bill Paxton for six years since he crossed over.

With Harry Dean Stanton

The documentary about three mediums asking my old pal the same questions can be found on Gaia: - "Talking to Bill Paxton" MartiniFilms.com 

In honor of Bill's "Birthday" on the flipside (their term, not mine) - like a homecoming or the date of a return, here are three interviews where he shows up.

https://youtu.be/QOWW6LveR8w

https://youtu.be/mjVlK-yz34M

https://youtu.be/ioMsCfouyjo

https://youtu.be/Dy6tf_RBj_c

https://youtu.be/v2S4LDzFiMc




 


With Kimberly Babcock (click on the video to watch, or use this site: https://youtu.be/Dy6tf_RBj_c


With Raylene Nuanes (I supplied the questions)

With Jennifer Shaffer


Not gone, just not here.


Happy flipside birthday mon ami.



Friday

Good Friday and The Second Coming

" What's so good about it?"

In the ongoing interviews we've had with people who report that they can access Jesus, or the frequency of Jesus, or the fellow himself, the comment has come up that "If Jesus returned to see what folks were doing in his memory, it would be celebrating the worst day of his life."

That may have come from a comedian - but the point is apt.  

The guy lives a life of love, loving, being loved, spreading love - and the symbol we use in his honor is from the worst afternoon of his journey. 'Hi Jesus! Look, I'm wearing your cross!" "Um, that's not my cross, actually, those Roman fellows made that thing."

Allow me to be heretical for a moment.

Tiziano Vecellio

To be clear, scholars agree he was on the cross for a day. 

Perhaps an afternoon. Scourging aside - there is a sequence of events in his story that can be examined. He's put on a cross alongside two other fellas who'd been there longer. Perhaps all week long as was the custom.

He's given some gall - wine mixed with myrrh - by a soldier and a few moments later appears to give up the ghost. (Passes out or is knocked out, it's a debate.)

Meanwhile Joseph of Arimethea is in Pilate's office asking for the "living body of Jesus" off the cross. (According to the original Greek and Aramaic, the word "Soma" he used was for a living person.)  Pilate reportedly replies, "you can take the corpse down. (Ptoma) "  And then they do. Estimates could be three hours, perhaps longer out there in front of everyone.

Soldier reportedly stabs him in the side - and water and blood flow out. (See Livor Mortis)  Well, that usually indicates someone who is alive - as blood generally doesn't flow from dead bodies, but be that as it may, the next piece of the story is that he's met at the cave by Nicodemus with 75 to 90 pounds of Aloe and Myrrh.

Interesting detail - myrrh being the same thing brought to Jesus at his birth - but it represents not an ointment for the dead (else why bring it to Mary after she's given birth?) but an ointment for the living. A restorative. As it still is. Same goes for aloe.

Since there's never been a Jewish tradition of anointing the dead (despite the good book's admonition and claim there was) with any oils or paste or goop. They bury their dead before sundown so they don't have to pack them in salt or goop or smelling salts. Never have. Never will. 

So the only logical thing is that our pal Nicodemus has brought along a whole bunch of bags of restoratives to this cave.  Not "anointed the dead" products. Who needs 75-90 pounds to do that? I mean, can we say "overkill?" ("Nico! Enough with the ointments already! You could have brought a pound - but 75 pounds?")

And then what happens?

According to the guards, who reported to the Sanhedrin, "his followers came and took him to another cave."  According to the gospels, they claim this was a lie - and that the guards, who were working for the Sanhedrin were covering up for being "asleep on the job."  (That's a quote, literally. They were lying because they slept on the job.) 

‘His disciples came by night and stole him away while we were asleep.’ Matthew 28:11–15

But hang on. The next day - when a posse shows up to find him - where'd the 75 pounds of aloe and myrrh go? 

Every report in the good book has an empty cave.  Empty except for a cloth.  (Reportedly the shroud.) A couple of accounts mention angels (one account has them standing, another has them sitting. Must get tiring flying around all the time. But I digress.)  

Never mind that the shroud shows someone who is alive (the dead don't bleed, and whoever was in the shroud was bleeding) and then when his pals show up at the cave, it's rolled away and he's gone... or in the garden disguised as a gardener - but either way - no one mentions the 75 pounds of aloe and myrrh. Or the bags they were carried in. All used on one afternoon? Really?

Where'd they go? Vanished into thin air?  Lugged out the back of the cave?  No one mentions them.

Based on dozens of interviews with people who claim to recall either a lifetime in that era, or being a witness to events on that day - it's not me claiming these reports, I'm only filming them - according to these reports from people both under hypnosis, not under hypnosis, or somehow accessing this "past life memory" - they claim the same thing. 

That with the help of his pals, followers, some of the Roman legion, he was allowed to escape. He figured out a way and method to survive the ordeal. He used his incredible healing powers as well as conscious abilities to not get killed on the cross. 

He didn't "escape" or leave the region immediately - people claim the aloe and myrrh was used to restore him prior to going to visit his apostles, which was at least 80 miles away from Jerusalem - so it's not like he left the cave on Sunday for supper with his pals. Reportedly, it took months for him to heal.

As reported, his followers were as astounded as anyone to see that he still existed. 


Who else would stick his finger in someone's wound and say "Is this really you?"  I mean, c'mon Thomas.

(Reportedly Jesus returned the favor to Thomas - in the "Acts of Thomas" from the Gnostic Gospels, Jesus tells Thomas to go to India to preach, Thomas refuses, so Jesus sells him to an Arab trader to work on his ship. 

Thomas claims he was forced to go to India, where he landed in Kerala. The spot where he landed became an ancient church, a new one exists next door (despite the Catholic church claiming it didn't happen).  Those Kerala Christians follow a form of Christianity closer to what Thomas preached.)

The St. Thomas Church near where he landed
near the ruins of an ancient church built
in his honor in Kerala. Lots of Christians not recognized
by any Church (other than Thomas) 

That he had survived this ordeal, with the help of some pals, with the help of his ability to heal, with the help of his years traveling the silk road and learning esoteric yogas that allow for consciousness to be outside the body (see "the six yogas of Naropa" for examples) - they claim, I don't claim - they claim that he survived this ordeal.

So - the good news is - he reportedly survived. 


I find it amusing when I cite these reports, people are offended. F
urious. Ready to light the pyre. "Jesus survived? Heresy!"  

But in retrospect it was a miracle that he did - survived a Roman crucifixion. 

And to do it with style, grace and love for everyone involved (including his pal Judas, who in the Gospel of Judas claims that Jesus came to him and said in effect "You have to turn me in, in order for this ruse to work."  "If you love me,  you'll do as I have asked." Quoting Judas now.) The story has many levels of grace as shown. 

(Never mind that the Qur'an reports he survived.  He's called "Issa" or "Isa" in that book, as he was known throughout the Middle East. People in the reports about him have called him Esaiah, and even "Essie.") (See "Hacking the Afterlife" for those reports) 

Hacking the Afterlife

The reports continue that he traveled with his "wife" (Mary of Magda, reportedly wed in an Essene ceremony prior to his ordeals) and together with their family (at least one, later 5) found his way to Kashmir and lived out his days as a preacher who continued to speak about life everlasting, and how the flipside is a kingdom where everyone is welcomed. Again - not my story. I am reporting.

But that's another story. 

This story for today is to say, when we think of "Good Friday" maybe it's good because we can challenge the narrative with this other story - how some pals figured out a way to save the life of their friend, and his unique ability to be a healer and someone who understood reality on a different level, he was able to live out the rest of his days in relative obscurity. Happy. Still preaching, albeit to a different flock.

During one of the sessions that I filmed of speaking with him, when asked "why are you allowing this alternate story to emerge of what happened to you?" he replied "It's not alternate if it's truth."

https://youtu.be/yP2geeqWZ8w

And then we have the people who claim he still exists - that he has come to them in dreams, visions, near death events - and given them new information. People who claim he's accessible to anyone - that he "never left" because no one "leaves" - we step outside this realm and into another one. That we can incarnate from, reincarnate from, and that he's done so since then.

Not gone. Just not here.

It's not my belief, opinion or theory that people say these things consistently. I just film them doing so.

Here's an interview with him via Jamie Butler (from the Channeling Erik Website). I've filmed another interview with Jamie and him sometime later, have yet to post the transcripts of that interview. It's equally mind bending.

https://youtu.be/HMbr4WXrM9A

So when we think of Easter - perhaps think of the idea of resurrecting this fellow's life, becoming aware that he still may exist, that reportedly he's available to anyone who needs his help, that's he eager and willing to help anyone who reaches out for him.  

It's an odd way of saying "Happy Easter" - because it includes the idea that we can all resurrect him by examining his story in closer detail. 

That the "Second Coming" may be our awareness that he never left. Or that no one "leaves" - they return "home" to the "kingdom of home" where everyone reports a feeling of unconditional love.  

But they actually use the word "home" instead of "heaven." 

Again - I am just reporting.

Graphic from the shroud with filters

When asked during an "interview" why it was that he had such a profound effect on people who have seen him since then (hard to breathe, tears, red faces) he said "I brought more of source with me to this lifetime. When people are near me, they feel that unconditional love." ("Hacking the Afterlife" Chapter 18: "People who claim to have met Jesus.")

To which I replied "Not so much with the Romans." 

And the person who was accessing him in the interview (in "Hacking the Afterlife") said "He's laughing. He just laughed when you said that."

Which is a small Easter egg unto itself.


My two Easter eggs cents.

Saturday

Unconditional Love and Rose Petals from Mary

I write often about the flipside on the Quora website. 

                Speaking words of wisdom... let it be. (quoting Paul's mom)

I "administer" a forum called "Hacking the Afterlife" and try to limit my answers/comments/observations to questions based on the research or my own personal experiences. (In general I don't post comments that refer to other books or philosophies - after all, I'm taking the time to respond to these comments based on my books, and if I responded to comments on other people's books I'd have no time to do anything.

That being said, over 14 million folks have "viewed my posts."  I don't buy into metrics in general ("How many likes did you get? How many subscribers can I hire in India?") But it is the lingua franca of our planet - I can only say, if one person has been helped by something I've written, I'm happy to have done so.










The most pushback I get in comments comes from the left and right wings of the spiritual spectrum. (Not political.  There are people adamant and furious on all levels these days, even "middle of the roaders.")  But as an observation, the angry posts are equal from the "religious believers" to the "science non believers."  I'm an equal opportunity heretic.

A scientist might weigh in with "BS! This is all nonsense and woo woo!" (I think it's hilarious that a scientist would opt to use a phrase that was a drink in Boston in the 1600's. "Woo" is still served at the Wayside Inn, and for those who know it, can attest to being in "slumberland" when they try it.)

So "Woo woo" aside, (or as I call it "Major woo") they're offended by the research. (And use sandbox terms to describe their umbrage.) 

I often cite the scientists who have touched upon the same concepts ("is consciousness produced by the brain?" by Dr. Greyson on YouTube is a good place to start) but when I cite Ed and Emily Kelly PhD's "Irreducible Mind," David Presti PhD's "Mind Beyond Brain" the 1500 cases of reincarnation being studied by Dr. Jim Tucker ("Return to Life") or the 100 peer reviewed studies by Dr. Greyson - they don't want to hear that either. "It's all woo!"

Then I have the religious folks who assume that I must be citing Satan or a demon, or want to argue that the Good Book is sacrosanct in all it's fear and vitriol. That lightning is about to smack me upside the head or that I'm "cheating myself out of "heaven"" by denying its existence.

For the record there too - I don't deny its existence. It exists. It's just not referred to as "heaven" in the research. 

People refer to it as "home."  That's consistent. In all the 100 cases I've filmed, 50 with the help of hypnotherapists, people call it the same danged thing. Not heaven. Home. And they claim that the feeling of "unconditional love" exists there throughout.  

Scientists will argue that's projection, or someone read about it and is imagining it or is "cryptomnesia" - something they read or saw before. 

The problem with that idea is that unconditional love doesn't exist on the planet. 

Between pets and owners sometimes, between family members sometimes, but for the most part it's not from the pulpit (they preach "conditional love" - if you follow my rules, or obey, you can be loved) it's not from TV or novels ("Love lost" is the theme) As a form of cryptomnesia, people can't be "remembering a concept" that has never been expressed on the planet. (Or so rarely that it's hard to conceive.) 

However I'm happy to state that everyone I've mentioned the term to nods in agreement. 

They often "say it" while under deep hypnosis, say it without hypnosis recalling a near death event - or say it about a person they fell in love with at "first sight." "I felt unconditionally loved."  I challenge anyone to point to any book, movie or zeitgeist experience that uses the term. (Aside from my own.)

In "It's a Wonderful Afterlife" one guide said "God is beyond the capacity of the human brain to comprehend. It's not physically possible. However you can experience God by opening your heart to everyone and all things."  

Later, transcribing this sentence (said to a hypnotherapist on camera) I tried to think of where this jaded movie executive might have heard of that concept before. "Unconditional love" is opening one's heart to everyone and all things. It just doesn't exist on the planet (outside of monks, a few lamas, and maybe my grandmother Dionisia Lusardi Martini.) Worth observing "everyone knows what I'm talking about even though no one has heard the concept before."

But this post is about a transcription I ran into yesterday.  

It was an interview I did with the medium Kimberly Babcock.  Kimberly was visiting Los Angeles three years ago, and Dr. Elisa Medhus, who maintains the "Channeling Erik" website where she has ongoing conversations with her son on the flipside, asked if I would meet her as they were going to begin working together.


Kimberly's book is here:

I brought my camera, but was forced to film in a restaurant in West Hollywood as I had not planned our meeting well. Some of that footage is in the film "Talking to Bill Paxton" on Gaia, and in it Kimberly demonstrates her amazing ability to report what's going on over on the flipside.

(Quick to add; for fans of the work Jennifer Shaffer and I have been doing for five years, she is amazing as well, as everyone knows who has worked with her - and we are continuing to do our work together. So my citing another medium is to point out that if one works with someone who knows what they're doing, or has abilities to do so, they will get positive results.)

But when I ran into this transcript yesterday, I realized I was so focused on the conversations with my old friend Bill Paxton that I neglected to put the "meeting with Kimberly's council" in the book "Architecture of the Afterlife."  


With my pal in action.

(And if I am every asked to have a "new edition" of "Architecture" I will include it. I wanted to share it with folks, and make some comments in the margins so to speak.  This may not make sense to folks who have not read "Architecture of the Afterlife" but will when they read it.)


"Kimberly is a minister, medium and intuitive and is from Ohio.  We met at Hugo’s restaurant in West Hollywood. After the first part of the interview, Bill popped into my mind; I hadn’t planned on asking questions about him but took the opportunity to do so. My questions are in italics, Kimberly’s replies are in bold. 

I asked Kim about her first experience talking to spirit, and from that I shifted to ask her to “visit her council.” (I hadn’t done this too often at this point, and it’s later that I do so in “Architecture of the Afterlife.”)  But in this case, I didn’t transcribe this portion, and I present it here for the first time.

Kimberly is a medium, and I generally ask mediums to describe the “first time they realized they could speak to spirit.” Kimberly describes an event where she found herself speaking to Erik Medhus, the deceased son of Dr. Medhus, who is also in this book. At some point I ask her if she can speak to her guide. She sees an angel – whom she calls Gabriel. I ask “Is this the same Gabriel that people refer to as an Archangel?” She says “He says, “Yes.”  I turn my camera on.

 

Kimberly: What’s interesting is this thing is shifting from what you’re saying back to this room, this room where I saw Jesus and Gabriel.

Richard: Let’s go back there now and talk to them. Let’s shift your consciousness to Gabriel’s point of view; what does Kimberly look like to you?

"Like a light, a light in the shape of a porpoise. The way that I would describe her, she looks very, vertical like straight up and down." (Gestures with her hands to indicate energy up and down.)

Is he tall or short?

I’m not getting that kind of description. More like color.

Is the color you’re seeing solid, or something else?

Before you asked that question, I saw this color. This is wild, it’s… there is color on the outside, lavender when you go inside ... from my perspective, I’m wondering what the backside is.. it’s like yellow.

(Note: When someone sees or hears an answer “before I ask the question” I realize that they are connected to what I’m asking them. Since then, I’ve heard this is a way to confirm that one is “connected.”)

So the color is purple on the outside and yellow on the inside. What do those colors represent in terms of your spiritual evolvement?

Like the yellow gold... it’s more yellow than gold. "It represents “wisdom” or the time related to the evolution of the soul – the purple represents... (Aside: This is all coming from Gabriel) The ability to move from one realm to the next."

Which color represents that movement?

"The purple."

To move in different realms and planes?

"Yes.  Okay, the yellow is like the inner part... it… (represents) what you’ve learned or evolved as a soul. The purple represents the capacity to continue."

Okay. Gabriel can you show you her council?

(Kimberly laughs) He says, “Why sure, she’s never asked.”

Describe the journey to your council.

There are two beings at a big long table, there’s two that I recognize, (then) there are 8 altogether.

Going from left to right, describe them, or if they have names?

They’re male. “I told you she prefers male.”

But the councils members are they all male?

Quite a few are male.

Left to right, let’s go to the first council member to your left. What quality does he represent in your spiritual evolvement?

(Note: This is question I ask when people aren’t aware of why they have a council, or even who the individuals are on their council. It’s a “skipping ahead” question because I already know that everyone on the council represents some spiritual aspect of the person I’m in the room with – I can’t see anyone, I’m in a restaurant looking at Kimberly through a lens.  But she can see them, and she can ask them questions. Even if she doesn’t know what I’m referring to.)

It seems like my connection with him is to understand and share that there’s no need for protection. He represents no need for protection… to avoid fear.

He represents the lack of fear or the ability to not be afraid?

Like there’s no need to protect themselves.

Like “openness.” Or the mediums ability to be “totally open to whatever comes through without judging it.”  Let’s go to the next one. What’s his role in your life?

That’s so weird, he’s telling me he goes by a name…I see this spelling, Asur, but he doesn’t go by that, he’s saying to call him “Zeus.”

Should we call you Asur or Zeus?

(Shrugs) He says, “He goes by Zeus.”

Are you the lead member of this council?

He says, “There is a person who is, but it’s not him... There is a lead person but I’m the one she talks to all the time.” He says one is protection, one is safety, one is a continual support – needing to feel comfort or comforted.

(Note: Interesting that he’s going down the row of what each council member represents, prior to my asking him the question.)

He says…. they’re showing me incarnation like for an infant.  Almost like going from an infant to this big gap in between.  Remembering who I am – like he represents “Remembrance.” He says, “In order for me to trust myself to who I truly am, I have to trust this.”

Okay, who’s next?

There are these two who I see all the time. This man... I’ve asked for his name many times, he just wants to use the word “Chief.” He’s Native American, he has a full head dress on.

(Note: For those keeping score, this is the sixth council member I’ve met wearing full headdress, and about the 12th person with a memory of a lifetime as a Native American.)

May I ask what tribe?

He’s saying “Little Foot” or “Black foot.”

(Note: Blackfoot is a tribe based in Oklahoma, and I interview someone from that tribe in the book “Architecture of the Afterlife.”)

Let me ask you Chief; did Kim have a lifetime as a Native American?

He says, “Two.”

What tribe was she with, can you show or tell her?

Sounds like – Powell.... powa... (to herself) Wow.

What’s the “wow” from?

That’s interesting, um I have had visions of this life, but didn’t know what it was, a long time ago, I had quick flashes of being a past life Native American female who slept with everyone but my mate, was found out… and because of that, I was burned alive. I was tied up that’s when they burned me… I keep hearing Pau... Powel... Paiute? 

Where in the U.S. was this tribe?

Feel like it’s from a map if I go way over actually to state of California, upper right hand corner.

(Note: Northern Paiute are from northeastern California, northwestern Nevada, eastern Oregon, and southern Idaho. (Wikipedia) Kim may have been recalling another reason. In a 1967 UC Berkeley paper on Paiute practices, in 1902 a settler reported a man “burned alive” for practicing witchcraft. In a 1938 UC Berkeley study, tribes “frowned upon adultery,” but witchcraft was the crime with capital punishment; “If (the) witch refused to cure (a) sick person or stop malevolent practices, patient's relatives, after obtaining chief's sanction, often killed witch… Murder of witch might be accomplished by.. (being) lowered over cliff, shot; bound with hair rope, tied to tree, (and) burned alive. Berkeley Press “Tuibatulabal Ethnography 1938)

(Trying to be light) Well, obviously you survived that, you were able to get past that – further, you chose to be that crazy woman, which sounds kind of fun.

(Kimberly smiles) Crazy!

But you got punished for it – and ultimately, despite the fire, they just sent you back home.

I have to process that.

Thank you Chief for showing that to her.

He said to tell you that he represents – The Chief says that "He never speaks, he wants to tell you this."

Well thank you for giving her that visual. Okay, who is the next person in this group?

Christian, a fellow I met years ago on a plane trip to Sedona.

What does he represent on your council?

“Communication.”

Who else is here? To your left?

(Kimberly hesitates. Tears well in her eyes.) Mother Mary.

What does she look like?

When she stands, each time we address her, she stands and she’s short – She’s wearing blue. She has on something like this (gestures as if a long gown) the lazy feeling of dress that’s blue. She has dark eyes and her hair is brown but not dark brown. Wait, she said “Go a little bit lighter with the description of the hair." Her hair’s not quite so dark.

Thank you. Can I ask you a direct question Mary?

(Kimberly nods). She says, "Ask me a direct question."

Can I ask you a question about the father of your son? It relates to why Kim sees you with brown eyes, and some see him with blue or blue green eyes. Was his father a Greek or Roman soldier who had blue eyes, or did your son have brown eyes and people just get it wrong?

This is her response, first she looks at up… The first thing she said was “He is not like me – but it’s not about his features, he is not like me – and the Greek soldier, that resonated with her deeply.

(Note: Again, when I get the chance I throw in questions that the person I’m speaking with may have no understanding or access to. I’m fairly certain Kimberly has not heard the rumor that Josephus the historian started when he said that the father of Jesus was a Greek Roman soldier named Pantera, and his name was Jesus Ben Pantera (son of Pantera). I don’t know how accurate it is, but the idea that his birth father was someone outside his family is a likely event.)

Please correct me if I’m wrong, from what I understand, in your lifetime you were a servant or housekeeper for a Roman soldier, his name was reportedly Pantera... and he was the father of this child that you had that was so unusual; that’s why his features were different than others from the region.

All I can say is that when you are asking this, her energy – her energy goes right through me... it just keeps flowing. That’s a sign I have for something being truthful. And now this is odd. She’s sprinkling rose petals in front of me. In front of you, Richard.

May I ask why she is sprinkling rose petals in front of me?

I don’t know. A sign of respect perhaps?

Well, we’ve met before, I’ve spoken to her previously.  But let’s ask her directly, Mary, have you been on other councils?

She says "Yes." She says, “The rose petals are safety.” 

So I don’t slip and fall?

"No; for safety."

(Note: As I transcribe this passage I get the impression she’s saying “Don’t screw this up. Go lightly. You are messing with a story that’s not yours to mess with.” I shall attempt to tred lightly, as if walking on those rose petals. She represents unconditional love to many, and when she appears in any of the sessions, the print doesn’t do justice to the face of the person talking about her or to her. They “light up” and become incandescent, as Kim has done in this odd restaurant in West Hollywood. I would not want to step on any of Mary’s rose petals unless she wanted me to.)

I did ask Mary this question before, (via a shaman in Connecticut who channels her often) why when she appeared on the planet, she would say simplistic things about love – not scientific answers, or “evidence that she still exists” – just simple answers about “loving each other unconditionally.” She said at that time, “I answer what people need to hear; that love is universal, and god is love and love is all there is.”

Well, I turned and looked at her and asked her to tell me about my journey, what I’m doing in my work as a medium and she said “You see everybody that you see as her children that need help.” I think she sees us the same way.

Thank you, Mary; I’ll quote you on that. Can you introduce the last person on Kim’s council?

(Kimberly looks. She pauses.) That’s interesting. (Her eyes fill with tears.) She’s like – arr.. She’s like, “This is Edward.”

Is he young or old?

He feels like a young 50ish - but he’s gruff, he’s toughen up kind of guy.

What’s his role?

To strive, to be passionate; he’s so passionate and he’s – not “proud” but grounded. 

Edward what’s your experience hanging out on this council with Mary? Or am I wrong – do you folks hang out together or just come when called?

It’s more of a (“come when called”) response, it’s more like this: “If you have a traffic light, the light turns green, when Kim’s colors shift this way or that way (speaking to spirit) it’s like a magnet, we move when her color is moving – it’s not like a conscious effort – it’s more like I resonate or emanate different colors (that alerts them.) He says “He’s a teacher, a facilitator.”

May I ask if there is a theme for Kim’s many lifetime with regard to the kind of work that she’s doing being a medium?

I am hearing Gabriel speak. This is the archangel, the angel known as Gabriel.

Can I ask Gabriel a question? Are you the same Gabriel that appears often in the Bible and in the Qur’an?

(Listens) He says, "To answer your questions, the names aren’t important, it’s important to understand why you are plugging into these vibrations because of how it changes your essence, your soul, your vibration, it has nothing to do with your physical self, when you plug into these – someone is saying “You’re not one consciousness, you are threads of a compilation, and this is who you are. You belong to the threads, you belong to this classroom; they’re contributing to the essence of who you are."

Can I ask Gabriel to come forward?   

As he comes forward I feel like he’s standing at my right, and I feel… what is the word…? invincible. He’s very tall, like invincible... like “Nothing can touch or harm me, like a strength not of this world...” That’s him (talking); he’s claiming that.

Are you the same Gabriel that people refer to in history or is this a metaphor of Gabriel?

He responds, “I am Gabriel.” That’s how he responds to you – (Kimberly aside) He takes my breath away! It’s so strong.

My question is; are you the same Gabriel that visited Mary, Mohammed and Abraham? Or was that another Gabriel?

(Note: It’s something that occurred to me. People on the flipside offer that their experience is “outside of time.” That 25 years on the planet feels like five minutes to them, or 2500 years here feels like a month or so. Running into someone who lived 5000 years ago wouldn’t be that unusual, and further, if people keep showing up in the Good Book with the same name, who is giving them that name? Apologies for the repetition, but I asked it three different ways.)

Before I can answer that he’s got a massive rope around his chest and he keeps saying to look at it... it represents strength – it feels really dry, he’s showing me all the threads, how they’re intertwined. They’re close together and its really strong – He says “See where it’s frayed? It’s really weak. That’s what you’re supposed to teach; tell people to come together because together we’re stronger, and when we aren’t (together) we are weak.” It’s taking my breath away.

Is this rope something you earned?

“No, it’s just a metaphor to help her understand what I need to say.”

(Note: I’ve never had someone on the flipside offer a metaphor for the purpose of sharing an insight. The idea that he is showing her a massively frayed rope to give her a metaphor is mind bending. She isn’t creating this metaphor, but seeing it in real time. She saw it first, then reported what he said about the rope draped over his shoulder. “It’s frayed – but when the threads are together, they are stronger. You humans need to come together to be stronger.”)

Gabriel, is there anyone else in this group we need to speak with?

He says “Yes, about the story about the cave – he says go back to that question.”

(Note: This is a first as well. Someone on her council insisting I return to a question about Jesus being in the cave. He wants to clarify a point that Kimberly could not be aware of.)

So, you are the same Gabriel who runs into these people in the Bible and the Qur’an?

(She nods) But he keeps saying “Resurrection.” I asked him if that’s what he meant about the cave. He keeps saying “Resurrection.” (Kimberly aside) Wow. Yes sir. He keeps giving this gesture (hand back and forth) over and over and saying “Resurrection.”

(Note: She’s moving her hand back and forth, back and forth and saying “Resurrection.” He said “I want to return to a concept in the cave” – which was where the “resurrection” of Jesus took place. That is, he was dying on the cross, they pulled him off (still bleeding) and put him in a cave with 75 pounds of restoratives. Then apparently he was moved to another cave where he was healed and able to leave and return back to Kashmir. 

But what part of “being in the cave” is he referring to by using the word “resurrection?”

From Wikipedia; “Resurrection or anastasis is the concept of coming back to life after death… Reincarnation is a similar process hypothesized by other religions, which involves the same person or deity coming back to live in a different body, rather than the same one. The resurrection of the dead is a standard eschatological belief in the Abrahamic religions. As a religious concept, it is used in two distinct respects: a belief in the resurrection of individual souls that is current and ongoing, or else a belief in a singular resurrection of the dead at the end of the world. Some believe the soul is the actual vehicle by which people are resurrected.”

So if what he’s referring to is based on the same research, it would be that the process of “returning to life” (and returning to home) is like a resurrection. We are “resurrected” when we return home (reconnecting with all of our energy) and when we return here, we are “resurrected” with the conscious energy of being in a human body. Going and coming is relatively the same thing, relatively “resurrecting” each time we choose a new lifetime.)

Thank you very much Gabriel. Before we run out of time, can you guys show Kim a place of healing where she can go after this lifetime where they took her to heal? Is there a place for her to heal?

(Kimberly wipes away tears.) He’s showing me…. he just shows this room like we walked down this hall, and it’s all white. But the whiteness feels tangible, and he’s on my left and this is Gabriel leading me, and he’s sort of there in this opening and he gestures for me to enter. The room is gold, and there’s nothing in the room, but the light is golden, the walls are gold and are the vibration of Kim – not the earthly Kim, but the higher Kim.

And Gabriel is saying, “The way that you heal others or help others…” Those words don’t really  grasp the breadth of what he’s saying. He says “That is what makes the walls so strong here.  That’s what is healing for you.”  Gabriel is saying how “Something might have a stamp of time on it, but it’s really not (locked) in that stamp of time; it’s always occurring, it’s always in existence. So therefore that’s what upholds this vibrating place, this room that continues to grow (from Kim’s vibration.)”

So this is a room that Kim created?

“Yes.”

(Note: In “Flipside” there is an account of a fellow escorted into a giant temple, filled with people in white uniforms, hats. He’s told that this cathedral was “built from all the good intentions that you’ve done over all of your lifetimes.” Then he’s taken outside and shown a giant temple that resembles the Taj Mahal and says “And that’s yours as well. We created it for you, so you can entertain yourself with whatever you want back here.”)

So this room is constructed from the energy of Kim healing people? A construction composed of the things she’s achieved in her work?

He says, “Yes.” He says “She’ll go and she’ll see by running her hands, (along the walls) merging with that energy, she’ll see both sides of it.. so if I did something to make someone else heal, I would experience not just Kim perspective but the healed person’s perspective too and that’s why it’s so strong.

Let me ask, Gabriel, can you give her a sensation of remembering this room now? Can you give her that?

(Kimberly reacts) Oh. (She sighs, cries) He um… He brought Christ forward.

(Note: Interesting to note, I didn’t ask for him to come forward, I asked if he could help her remember the sensation of being in this “healing room” where all of her “golden energy” exists. Instead, he responded by bringing someone else forward.)

Can we talk to him a little bit?

(Kimberly laughs) Jesus is like, “You mean do you have time to talk to Jesus?” He brought him forward and said “This is her home she knows her home in me.”

Describe what he looks like to you.

He’s taller than me, not by a whole lot. His hair is like dark brown... his eyes are like a blue- green. He’s wearing something really plain. (Reacts). He just had me feel the hair on his face. (She touches her own face. She is in tears as she recounts this.)

Jesus, can you step back a few feet? We can’t have a conversation with you if you’re going to freak people out. Maybe you can change your clothes to something else…

He’s in jeans and a tee shirt before you said that! He just did that!

(Note: Again, a visual or a response before I can ask for it. He often shows up this way after I ask him to “change into something casual.” It’s often jeans and a tee shirt.)

Let her see that you are a regular person.

(Kim wipes away a tear). He’s just so compassionate… “But I’m also just like you...” he said.

Like Kim you mean. I like his sense of humor.

“Both,” he said.

Has anyone complained about the book?

(Note: Again, I’m asking a question Kimberly doesn’t know the answer to. I’m referring to the recent publication of the book “Hacking the Afterlife” where he repeats a number of these controversial points. And he responds to the question, without Kimberly knowing what I’m referring to.)

He says, “It brings a level of truth and awareness that is right now. It is... needed.”

(Note: At this point, I realize my camera battery is getting low, so I ask if he can bring someone forward that Kimberly doesn’t know. My old friend Bill Paxton (but I don’t mention his last name.)

Jesus, can do me a huge favor. Can you bring my friend Bill forward?

Kimberly: He says, “Bill has been waiting for you.”

Hi Bill. What do you want to say to your family or friends?


*****

         Kimberly Babcock

And the interview then goes on to talk to my old friend Bill Paxton. (That portion is in "Architecture of the Afterlife" and footage is in the film "Talking to Bill Paxton" on Gaia.) Kimberly is available for private consultation, and a close friend called me after a session with her to rave about her abilities. 

Kimberly is the author of "Inside Out" and here's a link to her book. She can be found on Facebook, Linked In and at Instagram.  

I was startled by how the contents of this session are repeated in other sessions in "Architecture of the Afterlife." I'm only sorry I didn't include the entire interview in the book. (When the folks on the flipside take the time to speak to us, the least I can do is quote them accurately.) Basically other "archangels" show up in "Architecture" - there are other mentions of Jesus, how he looks, what he's up to, etc - all appear in the book, not related to this interview, but indeed related - because the does the same things (changes into jeans and a tee shirt for example)!

But something I wanted to mention with regard to this interview.

I didn't know this was her moniker. Honest.


At some point she mentions Mother Mary "tossing rose petals."  As I was transcribing this yesterday, I thought - hang on, why is Mary throwing rose petals at me?  At first I was startled (Is she telling me to be quiet? Or to keep going?) - and yesterday I came upon this answer; 

“Go gently. There are people here (listening to you) who have spent their lives in deep faith and reverence.  They are people doing their best to share love and compassion. 

They happen to be of faith, they happen to have the path that they chose. Tred lightly, as these are rose petals in your path.”

So I’m going to try to do that in the future. Apologies to anyone I have not “tred lightly” with. I shall endeavor to do less stomping on rose petals and more deftly dancing between them. 


Mea culpa.

Tuesday

In memoriam; an interview with Bill Paxton (on the flipside)


Berbet Bruno AP Cannes
For this one year anniversary of Bill Paxton’s passing, I’m putting up this excerpt of the upcoming book written with Jennifer Shaffer where we “interview” people no longer on the planet.

Since meeting Jennifer, we’ve been doing this kind of unusual research into the flipside; my questions are not related to getting people to “prove who they are” but skipping ahead to asking questions like “Who greeted you when you passed?  Is there anything you’d like me to pass on to your family and friends? Is there a specific piece of new information I can share that no one but your loved ones would know?”
Jennifer Shaffer

Jennifer Shaffer is a medium/intuitive who works with law enforcement agencies nationwide to help find missing persons. We did some extensive interview for “Hacking the Afterlife” but since my old friend Bill Paxton passed away last year, he’s been “showing up” at many of our conversations which are “moderated” by my friend Luana Anders (who passed in 1996.) (For details on how that came about, please check out “Flipside” “It’s a WonderfulAfterlife” or “Hacking the Afterlife.”)
Luana Anders in a Rockefeller Plaza mirror

For those not familiar with my work, I’m a film director who has written and/or directed 8 theatrical features.  I made a documentary (“Flipside” distributed by Gaia) about my journey into this research focusing on the work of Michael Newton.  I followed that up with comparing near death experiences with between life hypnosis accounts of the afterlife, and after that I began interviewing mediums about their process. (Those accounts will be in another book I’m working on as well.) I’ve been filming each of my conversations with Jennifer and people on the Flipside for two years now.
Bill wrote, directed, acted in films.

After Bill started showing up, I’ve reached out to his family and friends.  He had specific messages for me to pass along to them, and as I did with a previous couple of posts about my (and Bill’s) old friend Harry Dean Stanton (both starred in “Big Love”) Harry proves beyond a reasonable doubt that he was speaking to us from the flipside.  (The posts are here and are filled with verifiable details that neither Jennifer nor I could have known, but later found out to be accurate.)
Jennifer Shaffer
and yours truly

In these two following interviews with Bill, I neglected to tell either medium Jennifer Shaffer or Kimberly Babcock who he was. Not because I have any doubts about this process, but because I didn’t want his  fame to get in the way of our conversing.  (These transcripts have been edited for time and clarity.)

Rich: (Speaking to Luana Anders through Jennifer). We have a mutual friend who passed away recently, Luana, his name is Bill.
Jennifer: They just danced.

Who just danced?
Bill and Luana did a little tango thing. 

(Note: Bill met Luana before his career took off, he was going to star in my film “You Can’t Hurry Love” and helped me rewrite the script.  Luana was always a big fan of his work, so it’s not unusual for me to hear they met up on the Flipside.)

Does Bill want to talk to us?
He just showed me him filing his nails... (Like “yeah, what is it?” Bill and my relationship was always in the poking fun at each other in this realm.)

So he’s here?
He says he’s shampooing his hair... (getting ready.)

Tell us what it’s like over there
“It’s fun,” he says.  He says “I can fly”... and that he likes scaring people.

Who was the first person to greet you when you crossed over?
His dad.

(Note: Bill’s father did precede him in death, and as we’ll hear from Kim Babcock, he says the same thing to her.)

Was that a happy reunion?
He says it was shocking... because that meant that he had died.  He said “Yes at first, it was shocking, but then that subsided." At first he was startled, but it wasn’t scary,” he says. “It was like a recognition of both worlds;" he showed me them together. (Both sides).

Was this an “exit point” for you? Something that you planned to have happen? Was this the right or wrong time for your leaving the stage?
He’s saying it was the wrong time for his physical body, it was the right time for his soul.

(Note: “Exit points” are something that we’ve learned from these interviews. People say that we generally stay here to accomplish what we’ve set out to do, but “exit ramps” or “exit points” sometimes appear, and we wind up leaving earlier than we thought we would.)

You once talked about going to visit the Titanic. What was that like?
(Jennifer stops, makes a face, eyes wide.)  Is this the Billy that was in the movie Titanic? He showed me a picture of that guy who just passed. I’m confused.

Well, let’s ask him. Is that picture that Jennifer is seeing of a person, is that a picture of you? If it isn’t, give her a thumbs down.
He gave me a thumbs up. This is him? I saw him here, in the office when we met the other day...  I love Billy, I had no idea...

He and I met in London when he was making the film Aliens, my old friend Lori was pals with his then girlfriend, later wife Louise. We all went out for a pint, and when he laughed uproariously, I recognized the laugh from “Weird Science.” We had John Hughes in common, John went to my high school, I met him on set. Later I asked Bill to star in my first film You Can’t Hurry Love; it didn’t happen, but I used a song from his band Martini Ranch (no relation) to open the film. I hadn’t seen him in years before he passed.  Bill, take Jennifer down with you in that capsule when you went to see the Titanic.
(Staring into the distance, Jennifer shivers.) I got scared because of the water rushing (past) but then he grabbed my hand and he calmed my heart down. He’s taking me to a corner, he’s showing me the boat. If you had a blueprint of the boat we’re going to the farthest right corner of the Titanic... okay... (To Bill) Go slower. “You don’t have to hold your breath,” he just told me.

(Note: Bill had worked with Jim Cameron and when Jim took him to see the ship, he initially thought he would see it from the ship’s deck. But Jim put him in his bathysphere and together they made a number of trips to see the ship. Oddly enough, in April 2017, a few weeks after this interview, a “locket” from the Titanic was found on the ocean floor in a bag.)

Hole on the right side of the Titanic

Describe what you’re seeing and feeling.
I’m feeling a sense of peace. I’d be really scared to ever go into something like that. He’s taking me down to the right of the bow... that’s below on the bottom, in the front, and there’s a hole in the front – he showed me an explosion... an explosion that caused that hole.  

(Note: Jim Cameron has taken 33 trips to visit the ship.  National Geographic did an extensive survey of the wreck, and it does include a hole where she’s describing it. Knowing Jennifer as well as I do I’m confident she’s not referring to something that she’s seen, but something that she is “seeing.” http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118217/New-Titanic-images-doomed-ship-youve-seen-before.html)

They hit the iceberg on the right side.
I didn’t know that.

Okay, thanks Billy. Let’s move on to some other questions.
It’s funny I feel like I’m decompressing now.

Have you seen John Hughes since you got back?
(laughs) He’s really busy.

Anything you want to say to Jim Cameron?
“Thank you.”  He said it again, “Thank you.”

Anything more specific?
He said “He knows where it is.”

Where what is?
Something they were looking for? Jewelry?

I don’t know. I thought that was made up. Where is it Billy? Is he showing you a jewel?
He’s saying to be quiet.  He showed me you interrupting him... he says “I’m trying to talk.”

Sorry.
He’s showing me a future project with Jim... In June (2017). Might be a movie, something they talked about.

Is that something you were going to be involved with?
He’s showing me looking at papers, but I don’t know.

Well, I can’t call up Jim and ask him, but I think people are tuning into this form of speaking to the flipside more and more. So Billy, you know how to whisper in his ear.
“I know how to scare him,” he said.

Okay. That’s allowed. Scare him then. Let’s talk about more interesting stuff. You said your experience over there was that you can fly. Show her how you fly from one place to the next. How does that work?
He’s showing me (visually) before I can really process it. He’s going to all these corners really fast, then he showed me how many things are going on in the interim. Then he slowed it down super slow and showed me how things move here - but he’s going faster than that.

You mean like a super fast game of tag? And he slowed it down so you only see four or five touches?
Yes.

Describe what do we look like to you; how do you communicate to us?
He showed me the aerial view from above us, he showed me your head. He said “What works best is the eyes, as they’re the windows to the soul."

If you were going to pick some aspects of life on the planet that you might miss, or wish you could live again?
He showed me a pistol, chewing tobacco, horses...

He misses chewing tobacco?
No, he’s showing me like another lifetime.

Where was that?
In Texas. Near Austin. Feels like after the civil war... after 1879.

(Note: Bill goes on to describe in detail this former lifetime, details of which I was able to verify through research.  It involved a small group of Mormon settlers who lived near Austin, and he was showing her a lifetime where he was the leader of that group.)

So Bill any of your old girlfriends I need to reach out to tell them you said hello?
“I had no old girlfriends. I only had eyes for my wife.”

That was just a test buddy.
He’s laughing.

What can we ask you that an average person might ask? What’s your day like? Do you sleep?
There’s no sleeping there.

(Note: For a detailed description of "what it's like" I refer you to "My Life After Life" by Galen Stoller. Galen wrote a book from that perspective, and I've seen letters from a woman who claimed that her husband reached out to her through a medium to tell her to get his book, as he "describes what it's like over here."  Galen wrote the foreword to "It's a Wonderful Afterlife" volume two from the flipside.) 

Do you have a place that you like to hang out?
He’s showing me on a white beach.

For relaxation?
Yeah. “To think.”

What do you think about?
How he wants his next life to be.

Tell us, what will it be? Any idea?
He says he wants the world to be a better place.

How can you help effect that?
He showed me someone like Elon Musk, someone who knows how to get things done or made, that can... (help the planet).  

So how do you create your white beach? How do you create objects over there?
He said it’s by using mathematics and science. He says he puts an equation together that gets him the right (visual or) taste of whatever you want to drink or experience. Whatever you’re looking for.

So when you want to experience a white beach it’s a mathematical equation?
It is, but you don’t have to take it to that extent. It just happens.

(Note: In Galen Stoller's book, he says that "creating a structure" requires focus and concentration, understanding how frequencies work, and being able to manipulate them.  Hence the math.)

Let me ask you about other realms.  I know that Jim Cameron said he had a vision of Pandora, the planet or Na'vi people that are in Avatar. What was that about?
He’s laughing. Says, “They were Martians.”

Do they exist in some other realm? I mean was his dream in high school related to seeing something that actually exists somewhere else, or was it created by his mind? Or do you know?
He said “Be patient.” He’s trying to show me. He showed me Africa. Did Jim Cameron’s father go to Africa? There’s something with an African influence for Jim Cameron – he showed me a mask, something with a mask, obviously we don’t see that in the movie, but it was the same recurring dream over and over again, it’s about helping the planet. He wanted to help the planet.

(Note: The Na'vi are reportedly loosely based on the Ashante tribe of the Ashante Region in central Ghana. "Their singing sounds much like the Na'vi singers from the soundtrack from James Cameron's "Avatar")

I know Jim had a dream about the Terminator while sitting in a pensione in Italy; he dreamed about the skeletal Terminator robot.
He gets those dreams about the future... I just got shown our friend Scott De Tamble (lightbetweenlives.com) Sometimes under hypnosis people can access the future.

But I’m asking does the planet from Avatar exist somewhere?
Yes.

In our universe or in another realm?
Bill is so funny. If I’m interpreting this correctly, he’s saying it does exist somewhere else, and when you’re able to link in, you can get the information from there to manifest itself here.  But more importantly, nature, the trees that exist on our planet have existed longer than any humans.  And what happens in the film, is happening here on our planet. For example, when we take down trees in the Amazon or in Africa we are cutting off the life support in other dimensions.

Okay.  Billy, is there anything you want me to pass along to your family and friends?
Reach out to them, he says.

I know his children are on social media, but I don’t want to be like a creepy uncle reaching out to them. I mean, who wants to hear from some dude who claims he’s talking to your loved one?
“Get over it,” he says.

Give me something to say that your friends and family would know comes from you.
When one of them has a dream about him, that’s him trying to get through. There are changes, or decisions being made, and he wants them to know whenever they ask him questions, he’s there trying to help out.

So your message is; “Listen?”
Bingo.

Should I tell them the Michael Newton method (that Jennifer and I heard in another interview with the Flipside) “Say the name of your loved one, either aloud or in your mind, ask them questions you don’t know the answer to, when you hear the answer before you can form the question you’ll know you’ve made a connection?”
Yes, but without mentioning Michael Newton. (laughs) Whatever it takes; it’s important. He says, "Thanks."  He showed me that Jim Cameron is thinking about doing a project about the afterlife. So if you talk to him, ask him about it.

I will. Thanks Billy.

Medium/Minister Kimberly Babcock
(Note: Some days later, I met with the medium KimberlyBabcock, who is both a medium and a minister from Ohio.  I filmed a long discussion that was freewheeling, and towards the end, I had the thought to mention Bill, who had passed only weeks prior. Conducted in a busy Weho restaurant, it's been edited for time and clarity.)

Richard: Can you bring my friend Bill forward?
Kimberly: “Bill has been waiting for you.”

Hi Bill. What do you want to say to your family or friends?
Was he not able to say goodbye before he passed?

That’s correct.
He’s showing me it must have been quick or there was no closure when he passed.

(Note: Bill was in the hospital for chest pains, reportedly, and a more complex operation was done which resulted in his passing.)

Well, this is a way of helping give some kind of closure; what would you like to say?
That’s it; that I have closure and that “I’m at peace.” He says that they still have that wound, because there was no closure before he passed because he didn’t get to say goodbye.

What does he look like to you?
I don’t see him at all. I sense him. Did he have issues with his chest? I’m feeling like his passing was very quick. He said “I’m sorry.”

To who?
To them (his family).

Okay. Here’s the thing, now this door is open we can have conversations and help them to access you more directly.
Was he on medication or something with medicine?

He was getting an operation, they were working on his heart.
I think it’s more than that; medicine was involved with his health and his passing. He’s showing me a pill bottle, as if they were giving him medicine. 

Okay. So now you’re back home – are you there with your soul group? Who greeted you when you crossed over?
His dad. I see the word “dad” written in the air.

(Note: Same answer to Jennifer’s question.)

Last time we were together was at screening of my film “Cannes Man.” I didn’t talk to you, but I heard your distinct laugh in the audience. How’d you like that film?
When you said "I didn’t talk to you" – he said, “I did talk to you.”

Yes, that's correct, when I called you up to invite you.
When you said “How’d you like the film?” He feels so much like, you and he wanted to do something similar or that you both did similar work – it seems like he saw himself in it.

(Note: Bill and I tried to work together on “You Can’t Hurry Love.”  When he made “A Simple Plan” he called to tell me “I finally got to work with Bridget Fonda” (who appeared in the film.) "Cannes Man" was about a hapless delivery boy who comes to the film festival, and just using hype turns into the “flavor of the moment.” Bill and I spent a few fun evenings in Cannes together over the years so that makes sense he could have starred in it.)

He should have been in "Cannes Man."
He feels like it (the story) represents him...

(Note: Bill stopped by to see his agent Brian Swardstrom's Oscar nominated film "Just Call Me By My Name" on his way to Cannes.  That film is dedicated to Bill.)

Billy I just wanted to open this door, I thought this would be a fun chance to say hi.
He says... It’s funny it feels like he’s such a smart aleck! He says, “You always have a chance to say hi, you don’t need her.” He’s very funny.

I’m just seeing if I can help you in some way to connect with your loved ones, and don’t hesitate to stop by.  Let me ask, so were you impressed when we spoke to Jesus a few moments ago?

(Note: Just prior to my asking questions, I asked Kimberly about her visions where she has seen Jesus during some of her mediumship sessions, and we spoke about her journey to this work.  I segued from “talking to Jesus” to asking him to bring forward “my pal Bill.”)

He’s razzing you. He says... um, he’s like “Jesus and I, we go way back, what are you talking about?” He’s like “Where are you?” He’s kind of beating you up.

(Note: She could not possibly know that’s our relationship.  Glad to hear he’s still enjoying the mutual razzing.)

So Billy, when you’re looking at us in this restaurant in West Hollywood, what do you see?
He looks at a watch, he’s like looking at his watch...  did he smoke?

I don’t remember. He may have.
It’s like he’s got a cigar, something bigger than a cigarette.

Tell him he’s very missed.
He feels like the kind of guy (well loved); it’s like “He knows no stranger,” that kind of person.

That’s accurate. So what’s the biggest thing you learned passing over?
That there is no time, there is no death. He didn’t realize how much fear he had until he died, until he came here. “There is no fear; there is no time.

Did you have your past life review already?
He says “A long time ago.”

(Note: A “past life review” is something that’s common among people who have near death experiences, but it’s also in the reports from people under deep hypnosis. I’ve filmed 45 sessions, done 5 myself and examined thousands from Dr. Helen Wambach and Michael Newton.  People talk about “seeing their council” and then having a review of all the good or bad things they’ve done in their lifetime.)

Any of the highlights... (laughs) or low lights you want to share? Anything you were surprised to see?
(aside) Wow, that’s an interesting perspective. He says that he realizes... he says... I’ll just say it verbatim as if I’m him; “I’ll say this. I realize the fear that I carried within myself planted fear in others and for that I shed remorse. I acknowledge my remorse and I know I have to heal in that way.” He’s showing (me) the collateral damage he did, he’s giving an example; here’s an example; “If we walk around (during our lifetime) saying “I’m so worried,” like “I’m so worried about my heart (or other fears) because then we believe in our fears.” And it created this collateral damage. He didn’t realize how much he did that. Like he “Just worried about stuff that was minute,” he says.

So how’d you like your memorial service?
He stood up and did a salute.

Some of your friends have written some wonderful tributes on Facebook. Are you aware of them?
No, it feels no connection. He says to tell you that he can connect emotionally (directly) to his friends, like when it goes to (appearing on) social media it has an emotional imprint; but it’s almost invisible to them (on the flipside).”

Is there any one thing you want me to tell you friends and fans?
He’s funny. I really like his personality; he’s one of those people who’s going to give you a little bit... just enough to make you want more. When you said, “Is there anything you want me to tell your friends and family?” He literally said “I can fly.” (laughs) He’s playing the song “I can fly, I can fly”... (The Peter Pan version). He’s laughing because it’s like, “I know they want more... but this is what I’ll give them: I can fly.”

(Note: This is the same thing he said to Jennifer Shaffer.)

Can you tell Kim your last name?
Kimberly laughs. (to Bill: “Why?” She then gestures with a “zipped lip.”) That’s what he did. I said “Are you sure?” He’s checking his pockets (as if looking for a wallet.)  He said “Nope.” He zipped his lip and then pointed to you.
 
I have other friends named Billy who are on the other side, just to be sure, tell her which one of my Billy’s is this? (trying to trick him into revealing it to her)
He said, “Whichever one had the heart issues.” Now he’s pulled his energy back.

(Note: He's the only one who had heart issues.)

We ended the interview, and then moments later Kim’s father called from Ohio to see how she was doing on her trip out West. She asked him what he was doing and she later told me;  “My father told me he just had this desire to check in on me. He was watching this old film called “Twister.” 

At that point I told her who Bill Paxton was, and how he was the star of that film.  She wasn't "that familiar" with his work, she said she was surprised, but not as much as I was at the clever way he revealed his identity. 

I mean “What are the odds that I would be chatting with him and her dad would call to say he was watching his film?”  

All I can say is “Well played Bill.  Well played.”

Excerpts from the upcoming book with Richard Martini and Jennifer Shaffer interviewing people on the Flipside.

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