An "unusual conversation" and 11 minutes from Michael Newton

I had this unusual conversation the other day...

Perhaps I should write a book about my unusual conversations. Well, it was usual for me.  A bit unusual for the person contacting me.

Sunset is a sunrise somewhere else.

I've appeared on "Coast to Coast" six times now, and a couple of times on Gaia TV with George Noory.  People stumble across this research I've been doing, and if it coincides with some event they've had in their life, they may try to reach out to me in some fashion.

A listener in Canada (to another podcast I had done) was listening to me speak about the Flipside into the wee hours of the night.  She said that she fell asleep listening to my voice, and in her dream, I continued to speak to her.

Kind of like being seen in a dream

She said she saw me in her dream, and yet she had not seen a photo or video of me before.  Her blog radio may have had a photo of me on its webpage, so it's possible she was imagining me speaking, but for her conscious mind, it was me speaking to her - gray hair, glasses, and "continuing" my conversation.

She said that I said "Perhaps we know each other from a different lifetime."  She said that I gave her some advice about the fact that she's had a number of deaths in her family during the recent past, and that I got up, gave her a hug and left.

She said I left behind three items in the dream. A cellphone, a pair of keys and a wallet.

I thought that was pretty funny.  Even in someone else's dream, I'm leaving stuff behind!

But I pointed out to her that since I had no conscious memory of her dream (two nights ago) then it was either part of my conscious mind, or part of her conscious mind.  So I asked her to look at the phone.  She said it was a flip-phone.

Per LaChaise cemetery in Paris

I said "Well that means it was a construct in your mind, as I've never had one of those."  I said "Open up the phone in your mind's eye, and tell me what you see."  She said she saw a phone number. I asked her to read it to me.  Haltingly, she read the number, one digit at a time... and read off my cellphone number.

I pointed out that it was entirely possible that she already had that phone number in her mind (she had reached out to me via my phone but had gotten the number in a bizarre way) so I wanted her to be aware that it could be her subconscious trying to reach out to her in some fashion.  I then asked; "So whose car keys are they?"

She described a ring of about 7 or 8 keys, with a leather fob on the end which either had a letter on it ("H") or it was the Infinity symbol (8).  

The infinity symbol is a never ending loop.
Normally means forever or always or infinity. Or it's an 8 on its side.  

I asked her to describe the keys, she said "A car key, a house key..." and some other keys.  I said "In your mind's eye, take the house key and go to the door that it opens. Describe it to me."

My grandparents visiting the king of england in 1933

She described a two story house, the door was white.  I asked her to open it and go inside. She said she saw herself going in, saw walls, a plant on the left side, and a mirror.  I said "Oh, great, okay, walk to the mirror. Who do you see? A man or a woman... or something else?"

She said she saw a woman in her 50's - gray hair, brown eyes.  I asked her to give me a location where the house was located. She said "Bosnia."  I said "give me a year."  She said "1623."  I asked the name of the woman in the mirror. She said "Helena."  I said, "Hi Helena. Thanks for showing up in our little imaginary scenario here. Tell our friend here - are you an acquaintance, a stranger... or were you her in a previous lifetime?"  She said "I was her in a previous lifetime."

Mnemosyne. Goddess of Memory

I asked if she had anything she wanted to tell this current incarnation. She said "It's okay. Don't worry. Everything's going to be okay."  I said "What does that mean to you?"  She said "that I don't have to worry. That everything is going to be okay."  I said, "Well then, probably a good idea to honor your subconscious or the person who has appeared in the mirror in front of you and believe them - that everything is going to be okay."

Then I asked her to open the wallet. "What do you see?" She said "It's leather, not large. I see some credit cards and a photograph."  I said "Look carefully at the photo. Who is it?" She described a woman with short brown hair in her 40's.  I said "Ask her what her name is..." She said "Janet. Or Janice. Benson." I asked where she was from. She said "Iowa City, Iowa." (there are a few from Iowa City, Iowa - Janets and Janices) I asked if she'd been married. She said "yes, to William, but his nickname is Bill." (There are a number of Bill Bensons as well). I asked if she was still on the planet. She said "no, she died in the 1970's.  This photo is from around 1933." (Sometimes names come through as "either/ors" - I'll update this if I find a Bill and Janet or Janice from that era).  

Clouds over Santa Monica

I said "Ok. So Janet Benson. Why did you come here to our friend's dream? Are you somehow related to her? A stranger? An acquaintance?"  "She's a friend." 

I said to this woman - a stranger from Canada talking to some guy who appeared in her dream two nights earlier - "So what do you think these three clues mean? The first one was a cell phone with my phone number on it. The second was a previous incarnation that told you everything is okay. And the third is a friend who is so close to you after passing that she's keeping an eye on you.  It sounds to me like someone is trying hard to tell you that "Everything is going to be okay.  That you don't have to worry. That those you've lost recently are still keeping an eye on you."

Can you hear me now?

She said she was "sweating" from this conversation, and trembling. I suggested that's a wonderful way for your body to let you know that you're hearing something real, or something that should be heard.  I offered that it doesn't matter if this information came from her subconscious, or literally came from these people no longer on the planet - but that the message was the same either way.  "Everything is going to be okay."

Got it?

Here's a clip from my interview with Michael Newton where he explains his technique of hypnotherapy. 

Michael generously allowed me to film his "last interview" (he was retired at the time) and the interview evolved into my doc "Flipside." (Gaia/Universal avail at Gaia and Amazon) 

This is from Paul Aurand's youtube page, an excellent hypnotherapist trained by Michael practicing in NYC. if you want to examine the past and present with new eyes (take the "red pill" as they say) this is a good place to start.




Happy New Year.

A Happy New Year from the Flipside and talking about the OA

Had an unusual conversation this morning...

The Original OA. "Oculus" di Mantegna

For those familiar with my writing about the flipside, or how I prefer to call the "afterlife" - I was pretty much open mouthed and dumb struck as this story was told to me.... a couple of hours ago. It might as well have come from one of my books...

For those unfamiliar with "Flipside" "It's a Wonderful Afterlife" and "Hacking the Afterlife" - the points of this story all converge in the same place: "The OA."  Now, the OA as depicted in the series is a shortcut term for "Original Angel."  Which is like calling someone an OG or "original gangster."  It doesn't mean they're THE original angel.  But it does refer to being an Old School Member.

I was filming an interview on Santa Monica Beach
with Jennifer Shaffer when my high school buddy came
through. He had just passed that morning and Jennifer
said "Oh Billy is here."  I asked him some questions about the Flipside.
"You can move around a lot quicker."

So in the OA we meet characters who have been with us for many lifetimes.  Like the character Brit Marling meets during her near death experience as a young girl. She meets the character known as Kaithun (which means "Origin" in Arabic) - did she have a previous lifetime with Kaithun?  It's possible.  

Our spirit guides sometimes accede to our request ("please! I can't get through this lifetime without you helping me!") but by and large, our spirit guide (we all have ONE and some have more than one, but basically one is the "main person" for each of us) does NOT incarnate with us on Earth (or wherever we CHOOSE to incarnate) because after all, how can they help us if they're always there by our side guiding us?  Do we learn better by doing it ourselves? Or by being shown how to do it?

I'll let the crickets answer that one.

So back to this story I heard today.  I ran into a friend, a fella I met recently who has read my books, who was chatting with a friend who HAS NOT read any of my books.  (I know this because at one point he said "Have you heard of "Coast to Coast" radio?" And I said "Um... yeah. I've been on there six times so far.")  

So this is not a fan of my work, has not read my descriptions of near death experiences, of out of body experiences, or between life sessions - in fact he knows nothing about my version of the flipside whatsoever.

This woman was 120 years old when I met her on Dominica

(Our discussion went sideways when he brought up the Seth teachings that say that "time doesn't exist" on the flipside - (actually Seth's offering is that "time doesn't exist until we invent it" which is another way of saying that "time is relative") to which I said "Actually, it does exist per se, just relatively and differently from our experience here.")  

This new friend argued that he was aware that time does not exist, that "everything is happening simultaneously" (as Seth has been quoted) to which I replied "Seth is not omniscient.  He knows and relates based on his lifetimes and whatever knowledge he can access. But it's not omniscience. By saying "Time does not exists because it's all happening simultaneously" or saying "Time exists relatively because it feels like it's happening simultaneously" - a big difference in my mind.

(No disrespect to Seth, but this is a frequent discussion I've had with folks knowledgeable about his "teachings" - and I find it amusing that people get so upset about the idea that time does exist on the flipside, just differently. They should have known I'd make that argument.)

The reason it matters (at least to me) is because I've heard - "If everything is happening at the same time, then what's the point? What lessons can we learn?"  Which would be accurate if that was true. If you were five and ten, twenty and sixty at the same time - what the hell could you possible learn?  My point is that the research is consistent in this area - that time on the flipside is different, amazingly so, by which I mean it's both linear and non-linear.  And we come here to experience linear time so we can progress back there... meaning we grow from young souls to older souls, from novice to knowledgeable.

The path to enlightenment. Or the Santa Monica Mountains.

That we find young souls on the flipside, and then old souls - there is a progression, which is relative to each person. And the punchline is that the future does not exist yet, because WE HAVE FREE WILL. We can always change our mind about what we thought we were going to do. That's universal. And people do often change their mind from moment to moment.  When people predict the future they're seeing "likely outcomes."  I've heard this over and over again in the research.

I know that ruffles some feathers - or wattles - after all this is the New Year of the Fire Rooster, and some "wattles" are more orange than others - but I digress. I came here to tell this story about Russell, and not get bogged down in a discussion of time.  Let's put it this way, if time exists simultaneously, then there's no point in reading the end of this paragraph. You already know it.  

But for those who've stuck around - and want to know - how does this story he's about to tell relate the series "the OA" - let's continue, shall we?

This fellow told me that 40 years ago he had this profound "dream."  He didn't call it a dream, because it was more vivid than that - and he said the elements of it were as real as his talking to me 40 years later, the details as vivid in his mind's eye as the day they happened.

He was in bed, when he felt himself being escorted somewhere.  He didn't see he was "out of his body" because he wasn't aware of that. But he was aware that some individuals were walking him through what appeared to be a warehouse of some kind. (or in this case "an aware-house.")  He said "Like in those James Bond films when they're walking across a construction site or platform..."  The escorts kept telling him "Don't worry, you'll be fine."  At some point they made it to an elevator and these fellows either put him inside of it, or escorted him into it.  He said as it rose, it started to go faster and faster until it was going at an incredible rate of speed. 

He said the experience was painful. That he was scared and in pain during this portion of his journey.  But when he arrived at his destination, he was aware that he was out in deep space, that he could see the earth through some kind of window, and the stars beyond. 

(Note: for those familiar with "Flipside" this kind of out of body experience to go and visit a loved one is what began my journey to the Flipside. I had the same experience of "travelling through space" at an "incredible rate of speed" but had not feelings of pain.)

Gateway perhaps?

And he became aware of his friend Russell, a teenager who died at the age of 15.  This experience occurred about a decade after Russell's death, so he was surprised to see the tall (he said about 6'7") teen coming towards him.  He was consciously aware of Russell's death so he said "But how could you be here, since you're dead?"

To which Russell replied "But look at me.  I can't be in front of you if I'm dead, can I?"  

Andromeda.

Then this fellow said he was overcome with a strong emotional feeling of being "HOME."

(For those of you familiar with my research, this is what nearly everyone I've filmed has said after recalling a "previous lifetime" while under deep hypnosis (including myself.) When the hypnotherapist asks "So now where would you like to go?" I said - and most of the people I've filmed said - "I want to go "home."  As in "not here on this planet.")

He said he felt the profound feeling of "Oh, right, this is home, how could I ever forget this feeling of being home?"  When asked about what the meant, he said it was a profound feeling of overwhelming calm and peace.  (My friend asked him "Unconditional love?" to which he said "Yes" -- which would have been my question as well.  But he offered the word "home" and not the concept of "unconditional love.") He said it was a "profound feeling of being connected."

He said he became aware that his friend Russell was "like a scientist" of some kind over there.  He said the environment he had stopped in was "some kind of laboratory, with equipment" but that he could see "out into the stars."

(In "It's a Wonderful Afterlife" one person recalling visiting the between lives realm recalled seeing a laboratory with equipment, where her spirit guide was waiting for her.  As mentioned in "Flipside" and "Hacking the Afterlife" I myself have been to visit a number of "classrooms in the afterlife."  No other logical way to describe them - but as "classrooms" or auditoriums with a stage. Here's the documentary FLIPSIDE for those who might want to check it out.)

Then he said he was worried about telling anyone about this experience - that of seeing his deceased friend still in existence on the flipside. Russell said to him "Don't worry about what other people think about this experience. Speak the truth. You'll always know the difference."

(My brain froze for a moment when he said this -- I noted to this fellow that 30 years ago, I wrote and directed a film where the character Tony Geary ("You Can't Hurry Love") said that same exact line;  "Eddie. It doesn't matter whether people believe what you're telling them is the truth or not, as long as you know the difference." Weird for me to hear it said back to me in this context 30 years later.)




(This is the film "You Can't Hurry Love" and that's Luana Anders in the photo - she's the one who passed away and brought me over to the Flipside to find her, as I've documented in my books. It's 90 minutes, I present it here because it's nearly impossible to find elsewhere).

Then he asked Russell "How do I stay in touch with you?"

(In between-life sessions, the hypnotherapist will often ask a "spirit guide" to "put a sensation somewhere in the body" of the person they're speaking to, so they can always refer to that sensation as a connection to them. That "shiver" that goes down your spine, or a "ringing sensation" in your ears could be your guide trying to let you know they're staying in touch with you.)

Russell's reply was to walk forward and put his forehead inches away. The friend said that Russell stared into his eyes for what seemed like an eternity.  And then Russell said "If you ever need to reach me, just remember this moment."

A window that looks Home. (NASA)

And then when this fellow zoomed back to the planet, back to his bed, he said he was moving so quickly that he bolted out of bed as if he was trying to stop.

My friend looked at him, gestured to me and said "You're telling this story to the right fellow."  I chuckled, asked this gentleman if he'd ever read any of my work on the topic. (Not that he should, I was just wondering why he was telling me a story that seemed to spring forth from my pages.) He hasn't.

I said to him "Do you want to speak to Russell? Because you can."  He said he'd very much like to.  I recommended he see Scott De Tamble in Claremont.  As I pointed out to him, Scott's done 35 sessions with people I've filmed (I've done four session with Scott myself, and one other with another therapist to see if I would have the same visuals - and did.)  Scott's at lightbetweenlives.com - having a hypnotherapy session allows a person to experience an out of body experience, or a near death experience again without the stress.

So what does this have to do with The OA?

You remember the two times that Prairie goes to see her spirit guide Kaithun on the show?  Both times she was speaking to her spirit guide in different languages while the spirit guide spoke to her in Arabic. Prairie spoke the first time to her in Russian, the second in English.  But that didn't matter, because the "universal language" of the mind can be understood anywhere.

Kaithun and Prairie first visit (the OA)

The place where she was visiting her spirit guide was almost identical to what this fellow was telling me - some place "out in deep space," where stars and planets make up the backdrop, where he could clearly see that he was looking back on Earth but not in any realm he could identify.  It was the same environment where Prairie saw her spirit guide, although this fellow's experience happened 40 years ago.

What are the odds? That I would run into this guy was I was walking out of an office two hours ago?

But let's tie this together for a moment for whomever it is that has stumbled across this blog, this post....

No matter how many difficulties that come in our lives, no matter how stressed, alone, unhappy, unloved we feel... it's important to know, and it's important to state - there is ALWAYS always ALWAYS someone keeping an eye on you.  

Your spirit guide to be sure. Perhaps a loved one. Perhaps you have your own Russell out there keeping an eye on you. But your loved ones ARE ACCESSIBLE. Not in the same way they used to be - imagine for a moment that they're living in Tibet and  the only way you have to communicate is via an old cellphone that has a crackly connection - but you KNOW they're there, and they can hear you.  You know that they hear you when you say slowly and loudly: I LOVE YOU.

THEY ARE ALWAYS ACCESSIBLE.

Michael Newton told me (via Jennifer Shaffer) that "all you have to do is say the name of the person you want to speak to." (as noted previously on this blog)  I asked him if the name needed to be said aloud or in our mind?  He said "Either, doesn't matter."  I asked "How can a person discern, or know that their friend is responding to them rather than than it might be their imagination or wishful thinking?"  He said "When the answers come before you can form the question, you'll know they're speaking with you."

In a still from the film "Flipside" Michael Newton (the Newton Institute)

This is the time of year when people start thinking they'd be better off if they weren't on the planet.  The future looks bleak, the past may look happier - whatever.  I'm here to tell you, to shout at you: YOU ARE HERE FOR A REASON!!!!

You just need to reach out to a loved one, or a guide for guidance.

It's hard to know the reason why we struggle.  It's hard to see the reason why anyone struggles.  That's okay.  If it was so damned easy to know why we were here, we wouldn't learn anything while we are here.  Who learns the lesson better? How do we learn the lesson the best? Someone who stands behind us and tells us how to do it? Or by doing it ourselves?

Photo of a spirit guide. Or a cloud. I can't tell.

 It took courage to come here.  It takes courage to stay here. Have courage.There is someone here that you're supposed to help. There is someone you promised you'd come and guide and hold their hand. 

Carrie Fisher came here to explore and teach people about mental illness. She needed a giant platform from which to do so.  Her mom came here to pave the way for Carrie - to give her that platform. And George Michael came here to teach us that being gay or straight is a concept - when it comes delivered via a divine voice, we can't do anything but stand in awe and appreciation.

We are all connected all the time. It's all energy. Easy to say; hard to see.

 Look around you. Someone you know and love right now needs your help.  It might be to turn them on to the show the OA. It might be to turn them onto this research. It might be to laugh with them. It might be to cry with them. 

It might be to look them in the eye and say "Remember this moment.  I am always nearby. I am always accessible to you.  Just remember this moment... and I will be there."

Happy New Year.

"Hacking the Afterlife" book talk at IANDS in Orlando

This just in... here's an hour of yours truly talking about "Hacking the Afterlife" and gaining new information from those who are no longer on the planet. Enjoy!


Holding a finger up to the wind no doubt.  Which way does the wind blow on the flipside?  Tune in and find out. XXX