The Flipside of Anger or Hate

Epiphany; 
noun: 

"A manifestation of a divine or supernatural being."

"A moment of sudden revelation or insight."

An epiphany (from the ancient Greek ἐπιφάνεια, epiphaneia, "manifestation, striking appearance") is an experience of sudden and striking realization. Generally the term is used to describe scientific breakthrough, religious or philosophical discoveries, but it can apply in any situation in which an enlightening realization allows a problem or situation to be understood from a new and deeper perspective. Epiphanies are studied by psychologists and other scholars, particularly those attempting to study the process of innovation.


Epiphanies are relatively rare occurrences and generally follow a process of significant thought about a problem. Often they are triggered by a new and key piece of information, but importantly, a depth of prior knowledge is required to allow the leap of understanding. Famous epiphanies include Archimedes's discovery of a method to determine the density of an object ("Eureka!") and Isaac Newton's realization that a falling apple and the orbiting moon are both pulled by the same force. From Wiki

"Relatively rare."

I heard an epiphany this morning and thought I'd write about it. A friend was really angry about something.  It was something that has angered a number of people, and to be specific about it is to take it out of the world of "hate" or "anger" and to put it in the world of "cause and effect."

Alcatraz. Prison of the mind.

In other words, any normal person would see this video clip of someone being hurt and would feel a swelling of anger in themselves with regard to the event.  In her own life, she has had a similar event, but not the same event.  Meaning, her reference to the feelings of powerlessness, hurt, humiliation and fear were not the same as the person in the video she was watching, but one could "associate" those feelings with a "fear based memory."

Post traumatic stress disorder is a fear based memory.  Seeing people hurt by people in authority is a fear based memory.  Reading about a sexual abuse case in the news sometimes triggers the memories of fear or abuse, and brings back those feelings of anger. 

But this post is about addressing just the energy of anger and hate.

Anger, hate, fear is a prison.

Because as my friend was reflecting on the feelings of anger and hate regarding that tape, she was also aware that she had awoken in a state of anger, had already cut her finger badly by accident, or lack of focus, and was generally in a state of rage, fear, anger and resentment - not just from watching the video of someone being hurt - but from all of it.

She realized "Everything that's been happening in the world that is being focused on by the media" contributed to her state of mind.  

All of it infuriating in her mind, and more importantly in her energetic field.

And then she had an epiphany.  

She saw that the energy of hate is closely aligned with anger, and stepping into, or living in a state of anger or hate forces an energy shift in us that puts us into that focus.  That it's a self created energy, and that it is just a matter of focus to be in that beam of energy, or to not be in that energy.

Light. Tunnel. End.

As she experienced that thought, she was suddenly overcome with a feeling of compassion for the perpetrator in that video.  




She saw that the person committing the act of violence was also living in that state of fear and anger, and that the action was a direct result of being in that state of anger and hate.

It didn't mitigate her feelings of horror of seeing what happened to the victim, but she saw and understood that the perpetrator was acting as a direct result of living in that state of anger and hate, or fear and disconnection. She had an overwhelming feeling of compassion for the perpetrator.

I'm not posting the video or the description of the violence - because that would be missing the point.  The point is that living in a state of fear, living in a state of anger and hate only causes more violence, anger and hate.

It's a choice to be in the energy of hate and confusion, anger and fear.  

We tend to forget that everything that we think, feel, sense or experience is a result of exterior input.  Meaning the light wave that hits our eye is translated into an electrical signal that enters our memory, or the smell of food is a wave that reaches our nostrils and stimulates that part of our memory bank, the sound wave that moves through the air and reaches our ears  is translated to a signal that goes into our memory and causes a reaction - or that the sensation on our skin is actually an electrical signal that moves through our body to remind us of something... all of it is an electrical impulse.

All of it exists outside of us.  None of it exists inside of us.

It's a matter of reacting to what we're seeing, sensing, hearing or experiencing.  And that's a choice for us of how to react.  We can react the way our parents reacted, our grandparents reacted, the way our friends or community reacts - or we can choose to react the way we believe we should react.  

With or without fear, with or without ignorance, with or without hate or anger.

The  Dalai Lama calls himself a "professional laugher."

As the Dalai Lama has pointed out - "Hate or anger would be a useful emotion if they caused the person we hated to be sick or ill.  But it doesn't.  It only serves to make us sick or ill."  

We can't control what other people do, we can't control how other people behave, we can only control how we react to them.

And when those feelings of hate or anger arise within -- try to unfocus that feeling - or shift it -- to see that it arose out of fear and anger in the perpetrator, that we don't have to experience that anger and hate, and adjust it so that you are not attached to the experience of it.  

From a Flipside perspective,  people under deep hypnosis often say that the very worst things we can imagine happening to people were "agreed upon" prior to coming to the planet.  That's a disconcerting piece of information but it's not my opinion, belief or theory.  It's just what people consistently say about their own journey and path.  Meaning it's next to impossible to understand why an event occurs, unless we ask the people involved.  Unless we literally "step into someone else's shoes" to understand it.

If we understand that people act out of anger and hate because they're living in the shadow of anger and hate, it allows us to not react with our own anger and hate.

It would be easy to say "the answer is to try to live in a state of love and compassion" but we all know how difficult that is.  

Just try to live in a state of understanding.

Turn this...

Or this.

Into this...

Find the thing that shifts your focus from anger and hate to understanding or compassion.  

It's a much healthier way to navigate the planet.  

My epiphany for the day.

Speaking of Coast to Coast

I got a chance to appear on "Coast to Coast" with George Noory last Thursday.

George Noory and yours truly looking kinda pink.

Someone sent me an email that asked "Why did you say this particular thing?" the other day.  Truthfully, I'm pretty much on auto pilot at that time of the day, so whatever I said was in reply to what George was asking me.  He's such an excellent interviewer, that often I haven't a clue as to what we talked about, I just know that it was a lot of fun talking with him.

He asked me one question about whether "people feel remorse when they report from the Flipside?"

I said "not in my research."

With Jennifer Shaffer, medium/intuitive

I need to clarify that people may experience remorse after a lifetime, that's not in my ability to say that people do or don't experience what they experience.  However, I can say that in general, the people that I've interviewed aren't people who've had awful lifetimes causing distress while they were here.

Its entirely possible that someone would feel remorse, regret, pangs of ill feelings about the things they've done or not done - but in my experience, and in my research, once a person "lets go of the earthly bonds that tie us to the planet" - they go through something akin to being "blasted out of a cannon."

It's kind of hard feeling remorse at that particular moment.

When people do express that feeling of remorse,it's often during their "life review."  That's a term often used by Michael Newton ("Journey of Souls") regarding what we experience while under deep hypnosis, while accessing the "between lives realm."  His 7000 clients over 30 years said relatively the same things about having a "life review" process.

I've filmed 45 sessions, and interviewed a number of people who are familiar with their own between life sessions.  In particular Paul Aurand described in great detail what it felt like when he was before his council and accessing a previous lifetime where he was a slave owner, and "cared more for his property than his slaves."  Paul was able to access that memory because his council was showing him that as a soul he'd progressed - that he no longer treated anyone (outside of himself) with disdain.

In the near death event of David Bennett ("Voyage of Purpose" and his interview in my book "It's a Wonderful Afterlife") David recalled his "Life review."  In it he was shown a couple of events from "this lifetime."  (Information he'd easily have access to, but wasn't aware of the ramifications of them.)  

In one instance, he was shown a barfight he started in Texas, when a young man made a pass at him, and he let the bartender know about it.  The man was then beaten senseless, but in David's memory of the event, he experienced it through the eyes of the victim.  He felt every punch, the hatred, the humiliation involved.  Then he was shown another event when he helped a woman who was depressed - and how getting her "to smile" changed her world.

Luana says hello.

Today I replied to someone who was upset about my comments during the show that people generally didn't report any form of evil on the flipside. 

Here's the exchange:

Email: "I'm not sure if Karma is addressed in any of your interviews with souls/spirits in the Afterlife. But I don't seem to find that topic.  I don't know about life paths for every person, but I would find it hard to "believe" that a soul who created mayhem, destruction, violence (especially against children), could just sail on through in the Afterlife without some kind of amends/retribution.  Thank you."
My reply:

"Thanks for the comment.  Well, as I'm fond of saying, I'm just reporting here.  It's not my theory, belief or philosophy in the mix... I'm just reporting what people consistently say about the flipside. Whether it's under deep hypnosis, during a near death event, or in some other altered consciousness fashion.  I understand that sounds contrary to every known religious and philosophical tradition on the planet, and if I observed or heard information that wasn't contrary - that is, if I heard information that contained some form of amends/retribution for those who've created mayhem, I would report that.  But that's not what's in the reports.

What is in the reports is that people who create mayhem experience that mayhem when they get "back home" to meet with their "spirit guides" or council - which is reported to encourage that individual to experience fully everything negative they've ever done to anyone.  So in a sense, yes, if we can imagine everyone that we've ever hurt, made feel bad, or worse - every creature that we've killed by accident or on purpose, to fully feel their experience of pain, suffering or humiliation - all from their perspective - that would give anyone pause. (Which is consistently reported - that when someone remembers an awful thing they did during their lifetime,it's something they experience from the perspective of their victim.)

And that detail actually is reported - that people have a "life review" and during those life reviews they get a chance to experience everything they've done to other people.  (During Coast to Coast the other night, he asked if people felt "remorse" over a previous life - but I have to answer honestly... in my research I've not found that.  However, I'm not interviewing people who were perpetrators for the most part, just people who have suffered and not caused pain.  There are a few of those in my research (and I report those) but for the most part - people experience wonder after they pass. At least the ones I've interviewed or filmed.)

But when we speak to people who've had those experiences as victims (and I've filmed quite a few) - that is people who were "murdered" "annihilated" or molested as children... while they are under deep hypnosis they report consistently not what anyone with a sane mind would want to hear.  They report - consistently - that from the soul's perspective, their journey here was done with intent - either to teach lessons in love or compassion or forgiveness, or to learn lessons in the same.  And again - if they reported some form of red hot pokers being applied to the fingernails of their perpetrators - I'd be really happy to report that.  Because it certainly exists in every film, book or story I'm aware of where someone seeks revenge on their perpetrators.  And there's something satisfying to think that would be the case.

My job as I see it

But my job, as I see it, is to report what I'm hearing consistently - without judgment or prejudice about what they're saying.  I can't imagine choosing such a difficult path, I can't imagine choosing a lifetime where awful things would happen to me - and from my own experience I've seen a number of lifetimes of my own - or what appears to be my own memories of these different lives - and generally I appear to avoid that kind of strife and stress in my own choices.  But I have respect and unconditional love for my fellow beings who choose difficult lives - and so therefore I can appreciate what they're saying about them.  But thanks for asking.

The reply: Okay, thank you, and I appreciate your thoughtful reply. Troubling to me how we don't hear about and from the inflictors of pain as often as we do about those who suffered terribly. The Hitlers, the Stalins, and those whose policies have made others suffer would be an interesting report.

My reply:

"There are quite a few reports of people "speaking" to those you mention. What they say is that the world we exist in is a stage. That people sign up to play roles of "good and bad" people.  Since they are performances, they are actors playing the role of the bad guy.  For example, Desdemona doesn't go up to Othello after the play and say "You killed me!"  Rather they comment on how well the show went.  

Romeo doesn't walk up to Juliet and ask "why'd  you take that poison?"  She'd answer "we've been doing this play for a long time Romeo, did you forget that we do this each time?"  Since we have the illusion that we are fully conscious, fully in the world we're in, while reading this sentence, we can't be aware of how it is that we chose to be here, chose to wear this costume or chose to play this role.  It's not up to me to change anyone's feelings about that - because that makes me the fellow who turns on the lights in the middle of the play and shouts "It's only a play!"  

But if one can wrap their mind around the concept "We don't die" it might make it easier to comprehend.  None of us dies, so there's no harm anyone can accomplish in our direction.  Yes, temporary stress, harm - but we can't be killed, and if we survive whatever has happened to us, physically, we can comprehend that any event is one that teaches lessons to everyone involved.

"We don't die."

It's not an easy topic. But I will offer you an account that I filmed, and is included in the book and film "Flipside." 

I was filming a woman who under deep hypnosis remembered being in the holocaust. She saw herself naked, waiting for the showers to come on. The hypnotherapist asked her to move back to happier times in this life,and she saw her family and friends and loved ones. Eventually he brought her back to the moment where she crossed over, out of the camp, and into a place where she was met by her loved ones.  She eventually got to see her council, her guides who have watched over all her lifetimes.  She asked "Why did I choose this lifetime? It was awful. I lost everyone I loved."

She said (and it's on camera in the film "Flipside") "They're showing me images... this is going to be difficult to express... but they're showing me images to make me see that it was harder to choose to play the role of a perpetrator in this life, than a victim."  

I was startled to hear it, as I'd never heard anything like it.  She said "From my perspective each day in the camp was a heightened lesson in many topics, love, compassion, forgiveness, courage... and from this perspective I'm glad I chose this role, as the role others chose was more difficult for them to overcome or process."

We really have to examine carefully the roles people play - as we know, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Genghis Kahn, Alexander the Great - all played a role, but they did not perform by themselves. They had thousands of others playing the role as well, assisting, aiding, abetting... perpetrating their will over others.  Why?  It's a good question.  Why would anyone sign up to experience trauma?  Well, I can only point to one person's report "You can learn more from one day of tragedy on earth than you can in 5000 years on some other boring planet."

Did you catch that?

We come here to learn or teach lessons.  For people on the flipside, 5000 years isn't that big of a deal - time works differently off planet.  From my research I've heard that "25 years on earth feels like 10 minutes over there."  So there's that factor as well.  An 80 year lifetime might feel like a half an hour to our souls back home.  What happens on earth might be relatively thrilling or depressing,but it also might be just a blip in our overall journey and life's progress.  Just something to chew on.  

Again, I'm just reporting what people say.

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Then there's this fun email:

"Everything you talk about on your website, and what you talked about on Coast To Coast, is complete horseshit.

1) "We choose our next life". Horseshit.  I would NEVER choose this worthless abomination of a shithole ruled by evil criminal psychopaths to incarnate into.  I would choose a parallel Utopia Earth with no money, no banking, no government, no business, no corporations, no psychopathic ruling Elite, no corrupt legal system, no intelligence agencies, no need to eat other life forms to survive, and no secret societies like Freemasonry.  I have just proven you wrong.  (My response; "So why did you choose it?")

2) "We are here to learn lessons". Horseshit.  Who we really are is omniscient (all-knowing), omnipotent (all-powerful), formless, and has nothing to do with this 3D illusion.  In reality, we have nothing to learn.  It only seems like we learn in this 3D illusion, because it is in the deceptive design of it, to deceive us into believing we are the opposite of who we really are, and to deceive us into believing the 3D illusion and the illusion of humanity are real, when none of this is real.  This 3D illusion was created by corrupt thinking and lying entities that religious people worship as God. (Some of us take longer than other to learn lessons, just like in school.)

3) "Love love".  Horseshit.  Love is hypnosis, and has nothing to do with truth or reality.  (He cites a blog about the topic, how love is an illusion)  (Actually not my quote; it came from Robin Williams, someone I knew, who gave it in reply to asking him for a quote for the book "Hacking the Afterlife."  As pointed out on the show, neither I nor the medium understood what he meant - until he explained it.)

4) "We reincarnate".  Horseshit.   (He cites the blog again, claiming it's not true that we reincarnate)  (Highly recommend reading Dr. Tucker's books, Carol Bowman's or Ian Stevenson at UVA for verified peer reviewed cases of reincarnation.  Not my opinion, belief or theory - just verified cases.)

"Based on the quote above, mediums who are not con artists are actually unintentionally deceiving people.  Mediums are not actually communicating with dead people, they are communicating with the corrupt thinking and lying entities who conjure up this illusion, posing as the dead people.  Who we really are is that singular formless reality, and these individual 3D identities are all illusions."  

(Well, perhaps. Except in the cases of mediums who work with law enforcement on missing person and murder cases (which is what I was citing.)  Also, mediumship is not a panacea or a religious order - mediums can misinterpret what they're seeing or sensing - that's why I ask questions that are specific about "new information" that can be imparted.  Meaning "not knowable to anyone listening" until it's verified later forensically.  That's not hard to comprehend, is it?  It's not "predicting the future" or "hearing an opinion from the flipside" - which I agree would be pointless.  What I focus on are verifiable details that are unknown to the person asking the question or the medium - proving it could not be cryptomnesia. We may experience an illusion while here on the planet, but that doesn't mean we can't examine that illusion.)

5) "Atheism is not a religion". Atheism is a religion.  Atheists are deeply in the hypnotic trance state just like religious people: they believe this 3D illusion is real, they believe the illusion of humanity is real, they believe science is real and valid the same way religious people believe their religion is real and valid, and they have their God, science, the same way religious people have a God."

(The reason I said "atheism is not a religion" is that I agree with you - some people treat it as such, just substituting their old rules and regulations from previous religions onto a philosophy.  But my point was that it is not a religion per se - it's a philosophy.  (like Buddhism)  Not a religion, that believes or disbelieves as a matter of faith.  "I don't believe in god" is not an accurate sentence - it's "I don't believe in anyone's belief in god or gods."  Something different.  I'm not picking a fight with atheists - it's to call out people who confuse the two.  As this person has done in their reply.)

Me and George. Me looking pink again.

My reply:

"I appreciate your taking the time to reach out and respond.

Actually I'm not espousing any beliefs in this research.  I'm just reporting what people consistently say while under deep hypnosis.

It's not what I would have suspected they would say but it is what they say.  Consistently.  Meaning I've filmed 45 sessions with people I chose for skepticism.  But I've examined thousands of other cases as well as many near death events.

But I appreciate your opinion.  It's just not born out in the research.  If and when people say things under deep hypnosis (different therapists, different folks, around the planet) I'll be happy to report that as well.

Meanwhile, hope you have a good day. Again - not my opinion, belief or theory.  I'm just reporting what people say.

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And finally this emailed comment came today:

"I’m reaching out because of your interview on Coast to Coast. I loved it! Great show... you had me enthralled for the first hour.

What caught my attention was discussing Michael Newton. While I haven’t had a personal LBL session yet, what rang true for me was when you said “taking the red pill”. Lol. 

Because that was my reaction after reading “Journey of Souls”. I was captivated by that book (and his other one “Destiny of Souls”). They, for me, have gone a long way to bring clarity which wasn’t there before. (actually he has two more "Life Between Lives" and "Memories of the Afterlife.")

....So, for some reason when I heard you say those words, I had to connect with you. I’m not really sure why just that reaching out seems like “a good idea”. (The “good idea” you get when shivers run down your spine.)

Even writing this I shrug my shoulders going “what am I doing?”

I love your website and ordered a copy of “Hacking the Afterlife”. I’m looking forward to reading that too..."

(then he includes a vivid dream he had)

"...one night, I had my vision. (A dream that's so real you would swear you are there. This is because you are.) The dream (which I will refer to as my “vision”) happened on a sandy beach.

On this beach, the sand was smooth and oh, so soft. The waves were gentle, and the clouds were few. A perfect day.

I was there standing close to the edge where the water was washing over my feet when I realized that there was someone standing next to me. I couldn't see him, but he was there.

It was one of my Spirit Guides.... We enjoyed the sandy beach and the calm ocean together. The silence was so peaceful.

Then he turned and picked up a grain of sand and as he showed me the grain, he said, “This grain of sand is all you know, and this is all you will ever know!” He put it down back where he found it.

  

Wow.... The encounter left me crushed. I mean, I had this notion I learned everything. Boy, was I wrong. It jolted my ego."

He goes on to describe his interpretation of the dream.

My reply: (and this applies to anyone who's had a "vivid dream")

"Thanks for reaching out. Interesting dream.  I would have interpreted it differently... but then that's me. The best way for you to understand the dream is to reach out to your guide and ask.

Try to remember the dream as best you can in "real time."  Look over at your guide.  Don't get hung up on his name - that's a place holder.  Just look at this face.  Is it old or young? What color is the hair, the eyes, the skin?  Can you see what he's wearing?"  Just focus on him for a minute until you can actually see him.

It might be fuzzy or not clear - but you can get a clearer picture by asking questions. "how tall is he?  taller than me?"  If so, how can i see his face? or do I just hear him?  If you freeze the frame, try to look at him carefully.  

Then reach out with your hand and take his hand in yours. What does that feel like?  describe the emotions you feel. Anything? cold? warm? friend? teacher? etc. Then try to take both hands.  Look him in the eye.  Thank him for showing up.  

Ask "have we ever had a lifetime together? where was it? show it to me?  write down your impressions - answer could be "yes" or "no" - or "not on this planet."  If he says yes just ask "where, can you show me?"  If it seems familiar - like a city or era comes to mind examine that too... where are we? what was my name? what was your name? was I male or female?  

Don't judge any of the answers.  Just write them down.

Now back to holding his hand.  Ask him to show you something - like your soul group.  "Can you show me my soul group?"  if the answer is yes, count how many are in it.  don't judge the number.  Just count.  Look around - see anyone you know?

Then ask him "are you my primary guide? or is there another?"  Look around.  Is there anyone else watching this conversation?  If so - get them to come closer to identify them.  

Then ask him "Can you show me my council.?  You may not know your council, but he does.

Write down - are you inside or outside? What's the room or place look like? How many people? standing or sitting? are they in a row, or in a curve? what do they look like? go up to each member and do the same - take their hand, observe how they look, their age, their reason for being on your council.  Ask them "to show you" the "reason that they exist on your council.  What quality did you accomplish or learn from an incarnation to earn their place on your council?"  don't judge the answers but write them down.

Then see if they are wearing any clothing - describe it... any ornaments?  If so, ask what it represents.  Don't judge the answers...

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Finally ask "is there any message that I can pass along to myself or my friends and family or loved ones that will be of help to them?"  And see what they say.

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You'll be surprised.

You can have a friend ask these questions - but the key - the bridge - the gateway - is to remember that vivid dream.  You can see his face now as I write this sentence... so ask him some questions.

And tell him I said hello.

Best,

RM (All my books are available here:)

Post Script on a Scripted Post - More Harry Dean in the Afterlife

There was a wonderful memorial service for Harry Dean Stanton a week ago.

I've been waiting a bit to post about it, because it was genuine and touching and very Harry Dean.

It was thrown by his nearest and dearest friends, and although I knew Harry, I was not one of those.  As mentioned in the previous post, I ran into him in various venues including while appearing in a Laverne and Shirley episode, while sharing guitars at someone's private party, and over drinks at Dan Tana's at his usual booth with Dabney Coleman. But I knew Harry through his pal Luana Anders.

Luana Anders

The Memorial was a veritable "Who's Who of Hollywood" and was a testament to Harry's persona that all these camera shy folks showed.  Jack and Warren and Al were there - to name a few "one named superstars" from his era, Buck Henry, Rebecca De, Ed Begley Jr did a wonderful job of emceeing the various musical acts that played. Funny and touching.

A heart breaking rendition of "Desperado" was sung by a 12 year old girl whose mom was at his bedside.  Rebecca De Mornay sang his old favorite tune, "Blue Bayou" - songs written about Harry were sung, it was a wonderful evening of reminiscing.  The producers of "Big Love" recounted how the first met Harry, his irascible self, and then the amount of eastern philosophy he dropped in their laps.

His doctor, "Dr. Rick" told epic tales of his treatment of Harry over the years and how it was quite a miracle that this man who smoked and drank as if he only had one day left on the planet lived so very long. 

The director of his last film "Lucky" talked about spending precious moments with him, and Harry's hilarious curmudgeonly delivery that only made people love him more than less.

But my experience was unusual to say the least.  

As I entered the room, I spied the "Fred" that was mentioned in the previous post, the fellow who had driven with Luana and Harry Dean up to the Monterey Pop festival.  He waved me over (I hadn't spoken to him since I shared the blog with him, and wasn't sure what his reaction would be) and said "What else did Harry Dean have to say?"

I remembered that Luana had a private message for him, one that I included in an email, but wasn't sure what his response would be.  (Jennifer and I have these freewheeling conversations, she gets shown an image or gets a thought impressed upon her, and I pass it along.  Sometimes people say "That doesn't sound familiar" but sometimes they say the opposite.  It's always about translating what images or feelings they're getting in these conversations.)

In this case (and it's a note anyone can hear) she told me to tell him that "he should drink more water."  That he's "not hydrating himself enough."  His son looked at me, in shock - and said "That's the part of your email that blew me away. We've been saying the same thing to him for a long time."

And odd way of confirming what Luana was telling me about Harry Dean Stanton on the flipside - but I could not know that Fred's own family was saying that to him, Jennifer could not know this detail either.   

A super skeptic would say "Well, that's a general piece of information, that doesn't prove anything."  Yeah, everyone should drink more water.  

But I've never ever heard anyone say "And that's what we tell him every day."

Luana as Dona Medina in Roger Corman's Pit and the Pendulum.

But wait, as they say; "there's more."

A friend was there and was sitting with a group of women who were with Harry when he died.  I had shared with her that Jennifer had said that "Harry is showing me that five women were with him when he was dying."  

(I didn't know if she meant there were 5 women waiting for him, or in the hospital.  It was the hospital.)  And my friend told me these women were talking about an unusual comment that Harry made prior to passing. 

They were sitting with him as he was dying and he said appropos of nothing; "Hand me the baby."

In my interview with Harry via Jennifer, Harry had said "there was a child who greeted me as I crossed over."  

Jennifer got the impression this was a baby that had died as a miscarriage. Harry said "Google it. 1962."  (I wasn't sure if he meant the baby was born that year, or passed that year, or the mother was associated with that date.)

(In the Flipside research we learn that people choose to come to the planet.  And when they don't come for some reason, it doesn't mean that they "disappear" or "dissolve" back into the ether or consciousness.  They're still here, just like everyone who leaves the planet.  They can "appear" as they want to - in the form of energy that would help you to understand "who they are."  That there's no "time over there" so a person who died last week at age 80 could appear as you knew them at 30 (as Luana described how Harry looked) or someone who passed a few months old could appear as a "child.")

Either way, Harry Dean in his hospital bed asked for someone to "Hand him the baby."

Just like he told me and Jennifer in the cafe in Manhattan Beach two weeks after he crossed over.  Not a detail I could have known, nor that Jennifer could have known.  But a detail that was verified at his Memorial service.

As noted in the previous post, he recounted the trip they took to the Monterey Pop festival.  That he thought it was a "dream" that he had entered into - some kind of "Jacob's Ladder" (my reference) where in the last moment of consciousness you might wind up in a happy dream.  (I wasn't aware that he was in the car with Luana on her way to the festival until a few months ago, when "Fred" mentioned it in an email.)

But in the "afterlife dream" he was having, they had a flat tire, and when he got out to fix it, he looked at "Fred" and said "But we didn't have a flat tire on the trip. This can't be a memory."  And Fred responded; "I know."

That was the moment when Harry Dean realized there WAS an afterlife.  He said that Luana had "tricked him" (his word) into this event, so that he would have a "soft landing." Her memory of their trip to Monterey served as the vehicle for him to realize he was in the afterlife.

Other details came out of that conversation, and I mentioned them in the previous post.  I asked Harry to "show Jennifer" what they saw when they got to Monterey and she said "I see Prince."  

Then said "But this was awhile ago... I see someone onstage who looks like Prince."

I said "Look closely. What's he doing? Is he playing an instrument?"  She said "He's playing a guitar. Is it Jimi Hendrix?"

"Fred" confirmed when they got to Monterey, that was who they saw play among other famous musicians who played.  (As mentioned I'll put the transcript of this chat in the next book that I'm crowd funding at the moment "The Afterlife Expert")

Back to the memorial service.  

I spoke briefly with someone he dated years ago, curious if she might know who it was that Harry had almost had a child with. She said she didn't know. (Jennifer had gotten the impression of the number 1962 - so if any of you Harry peeps out there know who that might be, direct her to this website.)

When I told this woman the story of our "seance" and how when I asked Harry if he had any message to his friends and family he said: "There is an Afterlife."  Then "Believe in the afterlife."  She said "I knew it! I told him that there is one! He wouldn't believe me."

I told her I said "Harry, you were famous for claiming there isn't one.  If I claim you're telling me to tell people they should "believe" they won't."  

He said "Then open yourself up to the possibility that there is one. That there is an afterlife.  Then you won't spend so much time, as I did, worrying about whether there was one or not."

He added that it was like "running on a treadmill" to worry about it when you could focus on other things.  

I asked what the source of his disbelief was - he said "Too many friends died. I walled myself off from the emotions of it.  It was easier to believe that there wasn't one."

Meow.

I hasten to add - Harry's not saying "There is an afterlife as described in the Bible" or "There is an afterlife as described in Buddhism" or "there is an afterlife as described in the Vedantas" or "there is an afterlife as described by Zooraster."  

He's not saying that at all.  Nor is any of my research claiming that.

In fact it's the opposite.  

His declaration that "there is an afterlife" and this method of proving that you can communicate with loved ones no longer on the planet, points to another reality altogether.  

Not that there is no God per se, nor that there is a heaven per se.  

What the research shows consistently is that these words are placeholders for concepts that we can't really get our minds around.  I have interviewed enough people on the flipside to get a point of reference, if only by understanding what these words are not. They claim that we can experience both of these things, and by experiencing them we "know them."

When people talk about "heaven" during a near death event, or some other vision, they are talking about a place that people under deep hypnosis call "home."  It's a consistent word that they use to describe that place "we all eventually go" and where we "experience unconditional love."

Got that? There is an afterlife.

Obviously, when talking to these folks no longer on the planet, we learn that we don't "lose our personas" or become some "other entity."  We remain ourselves, (same sense of humor) albeit with different physics involved.  

One person said when asked "What shall I tell your friends?" he said "Tell people that I'm flying."  

When I asked the director Tony Scott (whom I accessed through an interview with Bill Paxton - I can access people that I know and then if they know someone, they can access them.  It's a bit like "Six degrees of separation" and yes, I should interview Kevin Bacon as he probably knows "a lot of folks" on the flipside).

So I asked Tony Scott a direct question "So why did you park your car on the St. Vincent Thomas Bridge and jump?"
(Sometimes when accessing information, I ask questions in a challenging manner. And this was as matter of fact as I could make it.) He said "Because I wanted to fly."

I said "You're joking."  He said, "I'm not. I'm spending much of my time over here traveling around to different worlds, different realms. I really am flying. I can go anywhere."  

We discussed more details, I asked if the "black box medicine" he was taking contributed to his demise.  He said "that and a bunch more."

I will include that interview in the book as well.  I'm not philosophizing, or opining a theory here - I'm just reporting what people say about the flipside. 

Either through direct experience (a near death event) or via a hypnosis sessions (between life hypnotherapy as pioneered by Michael Newton) or via a medium (working with people I know that have given verified information.)

I misquoted Bill Paxton in the previous post.  After transcribing the footage, I realize he said that he "was the new guy and he had to sit on the end of the bench" - calling himself the "new guy" on the bench, not Harry Dean, who with Luana were part of the "older crew."  

Bill shows up often in these talks with Jennifer because I knew him, we were pals, and he knew Luana as well.

 And in another interview he had specific things he wanted to say to his family.  (I've forwarded a link with the footage from those interviews to a member of his family.)

Bill showed up again during our follow up with Harry Dean, and said "I wanted to thank you for sending that link along. While no one has acknowledging seeing it, two people have, and it has opened up the possibility to them."  

I said again, "Look, Bill, I only mentioned you in the Harry Dean post because there are people who are suffering immeasurably from the loss of loved ones, including you, and you did ask me to reach out to them, so I have."

He said "Thank you. And I'll thank you when you get here."

Not too soon I hope.

Meanwhile, here's a post from the IANDS.org website.  It's about a guy who had a near death experience, and then realized he was "home."  Pretty much what I've been claiming is in the research.

"From Richard L's NDE on NDERF:

"I started to hear a buzzing sound that quickly became very loud. As the sound increased, the hole above me got bigger, the light got brighter, and I felt myself being pulled up towards it. I felt as if I was being squeezed through an opening that was too small for me. 

The buzzing sound became a whooshing roar as I entered the hole, with a Doppler-like effect as I passed through it. The sensation was like speeding down a tunnel at light speed, not unlike the 'warp' effect you see in movies. I wasn't alone in there, either. I felt the presence of others, but I couldn't see them.

I passed through some kind of dividing line, a barrier of sorts, hard to describe.

I was surrounded by light. Misty shapes began to form as I looked around. At first, they were just moving swirls of light, but they soon took the shape of human forms. There were a lot of them around me. I heard soft whispering coming from them, like a crowd murmuring and talking among themselves. From this crowd, three shapes came forward and approached me. As they drew near, I could make out them out better, as if they were slightly out of focus and my eyes were adjusting. They were tall and slender, wearing what looked like flowing robes. One of them was wearing a beard. They all had long, shoulder-length hair. One of them spoke to me.

'You're not supposed to be here, yet. You have to go back. You know what you agreed to,' he said.

I told him that I didn't want to go back. I liked it here. It felt like home. I felt like they were amused by my response.

'You must go back, you have work to do. We'll send you back, soon.'

I looked around me at the crowd. I saw familiar faces. These were friends, family, enemies, people I had known before, but I couldn't remember from where or when. Some of them I knew I had known for a very long time. Many lives, many places, many times. I flashed on visions from those lives and events. There was a continuity and connectedness about all of it, a sense of purpose and order that spanned the centuries.

I looked back at the three people in front of me. These people were ancient. I don't know how I knew that, but I knew that they were 'old souls' who watched over my group. We all had 'sprung' from them, like children, each going their way yet connected to the source. I felt nothing like judgment of our actions from them. If anything, I felt a kind of amused benevolence from them, like parents watching their children playing. Even at the really bad things we did in our lives, there was no judgment.

The one with the beard spoke to me. 'You can ask questions. We will answer them and you will remember. It is important that you do this.'

My first question was 'Is this heaven?'

'It can be, if that's what you want. It can be Hell, as well, if that's what you believe. This reality is an extension of you, instantly realized and formed. You always create your own reality, no matter where you find yourself, for we are all co-creators.'

'Where is God? I don't see him.' I asked. They became visibly amused, like they were snickering at my question under their breath.

'How can you see that which you are yourself a part of? We are all expressions of God. When you see with your eyes, you see through the eyes of God and he experiences reality through yours. When you speak to God, you speak to yourself. We are one and the same, there is no division or separation. You can no more 'see' God than your hand can see you, for it is a part of you and functions because of you and for your purposes, as well as its own. There is no separation. Any that seems to exist is an illusion. The light that surrounds us here is God. It is our source of being and is given freely to all.'

Next question. 'Why do I feel like this is home?'

'Because it is home. All begin here and return here. It is the starting point for all journeys and lessons.'

A strange question. I still don't know why I asked it, but at the time it seemed relevant. 'When I come back again, can I stay?' I got an even stranger answer.

'We don't think you'll want to stay long, you never do. You love your lessons, especially the hard ones. You can do as you please, it's your choice.'"

Read more at: https://www.nderf.org/Experiences/1richard_l_nde.html

Cheers.  Me and Luana in Roma.

Note: The word "home" means something different to everyone.  But we can all agree that it means something to each of us, and that may be a place of calm, acceptance and "unconditional love."

At the end, he asks "When I come back can I stay?" And the answer is "Sure, dude, if you're not in a hurry to get back to the planet, because that's what you do, you're always in a big hurry to get back there.  And you choose the hardest lives to experience.  You can do as you please..." - because we choose to come here.  That's why he says "It's your choice."  

It's our choice to come here!  

When we check off the planet, we hang out with our loved ones until we make a plan to return (here or sometimes people claim it's somewhere else, off planet.)  I post this verbatim because it's pretty much what I've said in all my books.

More to come. 

Talking to Harry Dean Stanton on the Flipside

"Just open yourself up to the possibility that there might be an afterlife."

Luana on the Flipside (or a mirror in Rockefeller plaza)

This is a post about my pal Luana Anders (who passed away in 1996) and my pal Harry Dean Stanton (who passed a few weeks ago) and my conversation with them via Jennifer Shaffer (JenniferShaffer.com)

First some bonafides; I've known Harry Dean Stanton since I appeared in an episode of "Laverne and Shirley" with him back in the 80's.  I played a pizza delivery guy who whenever he rang the doorbell, was always shy a couple of slices of pizza.  "Hey fur face, where's the rest of our pizza?"  (Shirley's line) And I'd make up some story "Well, I was on my way here, and suddenly I saw this fire in a building, and I set the pizza down, and went over to the building and caught this baby that fell out of window... but when I got back to your pizza, a few slices were missing."  

All the while, wiping pizza crumbs out of my beard.

Charles Grodin got me the part, it was his idea, he called his pal Penny Marshall and she brought me in to do an episode.  I filmed the bit on the same night that Harry Dean Stanton was performing - singing songs actually, and later, when I ran into Penny she said "Oh, I forgot. We had to cut you. Harry's song went long." (Some years later we shared the "millennium cruise" aboard Bob Shaye's yacht - and I played piano while Penny sang. So there was a circle to that story too.)

But in Harry Dean's case, that circle closed yesterday in a cafe in Manhattan Beach.

Wine and Spirits anyone? (Jennifer's name for a cool talk show)

It's where I meet up with Jennifer Shaffer to talk about the flipside, and when we're there together, we sometimes "invite" folks to come and chat with us "if they're available."  It's a strange set up - we have a small knit group of folks we normally speak with, and our class cheer leader is Luana Anders, my pal who passed away some 20 years ago, who inspired this journey into the Flipside, and has been appearing to me and in my books since then.

She was very tight with Harry Dean Stanton.

Harry Dean Stanton "Everyone's favorite character actor"

How tight?  Well, I did not know this when she was on the planet, but a mutual friend told me about a trip he took with Luana and Harry Dean up to the Monterey Pop festival in 1967.  The film played at the Aero theater in Santa Monica recently, and I went to see it just to experience what they'd experienced - but I don't recall mentioning any of that to Jennifer.  Either way, as I'm about to report; she wasn't aware of it.

So yesterday we asked Luana to stop by.  I said "Lu, our mutual friend Harry passed away recently, I wondered if we might chat with him?"

Jennifer said "He's sitting next to her."

Harry with a close pal.

Now, allow me to pause for a moment - I know how weird this sounds.  But I can tell you that I've verified many of our sessions.  I've heard things from Luana (and others - I've filmed about 30) that I did not know (so it can't be cryptomnesia, something I read, Jennifer read, heard or was told me) but later proved to be true. (It happens in "Hacking the Afterlife" with Jennifer.)

This has happened numerous times, and the details she gives me are verifiable.  They're usually private - so I don't normally talk about this kind of thing in public.  (If Harry had children or a family, I'd share it with them privately. I've shared many details from our sessions with family members, but in this case Harry was a solo trapeze artist.)

I knew and got to hang out with Harry over the years as well.  

We jammed at a party one night - playing guitars, him crooning his Spanish repertoire - Harry knew them all.  We also spent a night drinking at Dan Tana's with Dabney Coleman at their booth. I mentioned seeing Harry at Dan Tana's to Jennifer, and Harry said "Until four a.m." (which was accurate.) We drank until the wee hours, smoking cigarettes outside; Harry was always friendly to me because of the Luana connection - but he firmly did not believe in an afterlife.  He spoke of that disbelief often.

He was kind of famous for talking about it - this was the only path and journey, and after that, nothing. (As the director of his most recent film Lucky points out: "He was deeply spiritual person who was 100% certain that there was no God and there was only a void and we were all going to disappear into nothing and no one was in charge," Lynch says. "He was deeply committed to that worldview.")

His film "Lucky" goes into it in detail, although I haven't seen it yet, I'm sure he gets a lick or two in there about this being the only go-round on the merry-go-round.

That is, until I spoke to him yesterday. On the Flipside.

HDS - Entertainment Weekly

Jennifer did not know who he was, did not know who I was referring to, and I carefully avoided saying his full name or credits or how they knew each other.  But I suspected that it might have been "unusual" or "difficult" for Harry to accept the fact that there IS an afterlife, and it would likely have given him some pause.

It did.

(I filmed this event, it will be a chapter in my next book, but in essence this is how Luana and Harry described the process via Jennifer.)

Luana Anders in the 1960's.

About a week prior to his passing, Harry said, Luana started appearing at his bedside.  He said she was wearing her hippie outfit - specifically the one that she was wearing when they drove up to Monterey in 1967.  

Harry said "I thought I was hallucinating."  He said that he recognized her, but assumed it was a trick of the brain to have her appear in this memory.

I asked Luana what happened next.  

She helped him remember the drive to Monterey.  (Jennifer at first said "Santa Barbara" and I said "I think it was further north.")  Upon crossing over, Harry saw himself in this car, driving up to Monterey.  He "assumed it was a dream."  

There was a third friend in the car as well. Let's call him "Fred."  (I reached out to "Fred" yesterday as Harry had a message for him, and answered some questions raised here) 

Harry said "I thought this is what happens when people die - they go to a happy memory, like a dream, and then they're in that dream forever in kind of a loop."  The idea that a dream or memory would just play out over and over when someone was no longer on the planet.

Then, he said, they had a flat tire.

And as they were fixing the flat tire, Harry said he "realized this was not something that had happened" - that they did not have a flat tire on this trip.  

So he looked at his friend "Fred" and said "We didn't have a flat tire." And "Fred" said "I know."

It was at this moment he realized he wasn't in a dream - but "in the afterlife."  Harry chuckled as he said (through Jennifer) "Luana gave me a soft landing by doing that."

I said "I'm in touch with the other friend in the car - "Fred" - he's still on the planet, just to be clear, when you were speaking to him while fixing the flat tire..." Harry interrupted "I was talking to his higher self."  (It's a term I often use to describe the energy that is always "back home" in the afterlife.) 

(According to the thousands of cases done by Michael Newton of people under deep hypnosis (7000 over 30 years, as detailed in "Flipside") people claim we bring about a third of our energy here, and the rest is "always back there.")  

So when Harry saw his pal "Fred" helping him with the tire, he realized he was talking to the "higher self" version of his friend.

He added "And the higher self version is much less uptight than he is down on the planet."  

Jennifer didn't know that - could not know that - but I know that.  This "Fred" fellow is famously taciturn, doesn't speak unless questioned, he's described by all who know and love him as a "doesn't speak until spoken to" kind of guy.  So for Harry (through Jennifer) to describe him that way was precisely as I know him.  And it made me laugh.

He said ""Fred" is heartbroken, you need to let him know I'm okay."

I said "What have you been doing since you arrived back there?"  He said "Seeing friends. Thousands of friends.  You can tell my ex that I saw our child who passed away."  I said "Who is that?"  He said "Look it up - we had a child in 1962 (Jennifer said "the date 1962 comes to mind" - so don't know if it happened then, or she was born in 1962, or some other connection to that date) and that child passed away.  Let her know that I'm with that child."  

I said "Harry, I have no way to access her."  He said "Google it."  

So I will.  (People don't lose their syntax or personality when they get to the flipside.  They're not gone. They're just not here.)

I asked "Is there anything you want me to share with people, your friends, fans, or just anyone?" He said:

"Tell them there is an afterlife.  Tell them to believe in an afterlife."

I laughed.  I said "Harry you were famous for claiming there isn't one. Who is going to believe me when I say "Harry Dean said "You should believe in the afterlife?"

He said "My point is that you spend so much time worrying about whether there is one or not, if you just open yourself up to the possibility, then you won't spend so much time, like I did, on that hamster wheel worrying about whether there is one or not."

I said "So how did you come to believe there wasn't one?"

He said "Too many of my friends died. That was painful. It was a way that I could wall off the pain. Just easier to believe it didn't exist."

I thanked him for the point.  "Believe in the afterlife" - not because there is or isn't one - but the act of opening yourself up to the possibility there might be one, takes the onus and pressure off the wasted energy worrying about it. (to paraphrase Harry.)

Old pals, Jack and HDS (and Luana)

(I didn't mention Harry's other friends, that we eventually spoke of, as I didn't want to inject bias into my questions to Jennifer about Harry.  But later, he had some wry comments about Marlon and Jack which I'll include in the chapter.) 

I will be transcribing the session verbatim.  It was thrilling for me since Jennifer didn't know anything about this trip.  I didn't know anything about the trip either until a few months ago, when the third fellow in the car told me about it.

I said "Harry, show Jennifer where you were going in Monterey.  What did you guys do up there?'

She said "He's showing me big screens and people sitting around.  Luana said it was a 'free love' event. (We had not discussed a year or time when this event happened.)  I said "What's happening on the screens, what are people doing?"  Jennifer said "It's like a concert of some kind, listening to music."  I said "Harry, show her who is performing at this concert."  Jennifer looked into the deep distance and said... "Prince?"  

Did not play Monterey.

I chuckled.  I said, "Okay, you can see a guy playing a guitar who could be Prince. Look more carefully. Is that Prince?"  

After a long pause she said "Is it Jimi Hendrix?"  

A chill came over me as she said it.  This of course, was the famous concert where Jimi lit his guitar and the world on fire.  I spoke to the third person in the car yesterday and he confirmed that they did see Hendrix, and no, they did not have a flat tire that he could remember. Jennifer said she saw Harry and Luana smoking pot together, getting high, but this third fellow said he's never touched the herb, but couldn't rule out they may have been getting stoned.

Did play at Monterey

At some point, my friend Bill Paxton showed up in this discussion.  (Bill was an old friend, he's shown up a whole bunch of times, including when I'm interviewing other mediums, and his visits will be included in the next book).  Bill did a number of "we're not worthy" bows towards Harry, as he was and remains a big fan.  

Harry Dean and Billy P. in "Big Love."

But then, Bill knew both Luana and Harry, so it's not out of the ordinary that the three of them would be hanging out.  Bill joked "Harry's the new guy here, so Harry's gotta sit at the end of the row in this crew." (I'm paraphrasing, but in typical Bill fashion, made light of what we were doing.)  Harry also made a number of jokes, bad puns, and when I have the time to transcribe, will share them as well.

Bill Paxton directing

If you've never come across my page, welcome.  And a warning:

I am reporting what I filmed verbatim.  Jennifer works with law enforcement agencies nationwide on missing person cases. We've filmed other sessions where she's told me things about friends of mine (information from them on the other side to their loved ones over here) that turned out to be accurate, true, and not what I (or Jennifer) knew or could know. Verifiable details.

I've been cataloging what people say about the afterlife for about a decade now - I've examined the work of Michael Newton (7000 cases over 30 years), Dr. Helen Wambach (2000 cases a decade earlier), and filmed over 40 between life sessions.  (I've done 5 myself, four with Scott De Tamble (lightbetweenlives.com)  

I've interviewed scientists about consciousness and near death events, and have had a number of near death experiencers do between life sessions to gather further information.  I have worked with a number of mediums, including Jennifer, to access "new information" from people no longer on the planet. 

All of this is cataloged in my books "Flipside" "It's a Wonderful Afterlife" volume one and volume two and "Hacking the Afterlife."  I'm currently crowd funding my next book "The Afterlife Expert."

I offer this information merely as a reporter (I'm a filmmaker, have written and/or directed eight theatrical feature films, some documentaries, and been a journalist for a number of magazines).  

I'm not trying to alter, adjust, change anyone's beliefs, or reroute their journey or path in any way.  I've found that the people who are drawn to this research come because of some reason only they know.  It may be part of their path or journey, or they're trying to understand someone else's path or journey. This research is not for everyone, nor should it be.  Not everyone needs to know "what happens at the end of the novel" and it's infinitely more fun to not know the ending to the play when you're in the play.  But for whatever reason, it's been my passion for the past decade.

 Harry Dean was a friend, and remains one to this day.  While he had many more famous friends than me, our mutual pal Luana, one of his nearest and dearest friends was there to greet him on the flipside (along with others) and she orchestrated this session between me, Harry and Jennifer.  I know what it's like to hear and see Luana (and have visited her a number of times "over there" and the information is consistent and revelatory) know what its like to see her "over there" (appears younger than when I met her, but the same persona, sense of humor and deep insight.)



God rest ye merry gentlemen.  

It took me a few minutes after he said this outrageous thing "just believe in the afterlife" -- but now I feel I understand what Harry is saying: 

"Just allow that there might be an afterlife.  Even if you don't believe it, open yourself up to the possibility that it might be true." As if allowing ourselves to be "open to other possibilities" helps us navigate life on the planet. As if allowing that there's more to this journey than we can comprehend takes some of the stress out of experiencing it.  Good point Harry.  Thank you.

And finally, I'll end with a Harry quote from when he was still on the planet: "Heisenberg, Max Plank and Einstein, they all agreed that science could not solve the mystery of the universe." Harry Dean Stanton