Showing posts with label Jesus. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Jesus. Show all posts

Saturday

THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD AS TOLD BY JESUS AND THOSE WHO KNEW HIM

 



Some fun reviews for a book that would have gotten me torched in a previous era. Thanks to David Kirkpatrick for nudging me into writing it. Something to stuff in Grannie's Xmas stocking (kindle or audible available).

Top reviews from the United States
5.0 out of 5 stars The most important book you May ever read
Reviewed in the United States on November 12, 2023
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I absolutely loved this book. I am actually going to be reading it again. It is amazing, it is astounding it is eye-opening to your core... As a young girl my parents took me to church, and I never necessarily believed in what the Bible had to say, it sounded too corny, too fairy tale like for me.. I have never been one to believe what I've been Told unless I've done the research myself... Whether you believe in Jesus Christ or not I urge you to read this book. It was remarkable but chapter 10 by far was my favorite.. I can honestly say that I'm a believer now of Jesus and I do believe by reading this book it has changed my life in a short period of time..
5.0 out of 5 stars Bravo!
Reviewed in the United States on June 6, 2023
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A compelling read worth opening your mind and heart to the possibility of its truth filling its pages. As Issa reminds those who find their way to this story that it isn't about correcting history, it is about remembering what the original message has always been... LOVE and the way to the path is within each of us to find by going into our hearts. Rich does a fabulous job researching what is shared through past life regression hypnosis sessions and through mediums to find the treasured gems of validations pointing to a truth that has always been present to find. Thank you for being the storyteller needed in today's world to remind us!
5.0 out of 5 stars An incredible read!
Reviewed in the United States on April 24, 2023
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An incredible read that resonates with me more than any religion could.
Like anything else in life...if you want love...send it out to every one and everything and watch it come back to you!

Tuesday

The Greatest Story Never Told as told by Jesus and those who knew Him

 A promo for my latest book: THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD AS TOLD BY JESUS AND THOSE WHO KNEW HIM. 

 (Don't tell Martin Scorsese as he's promised the Pope to write his own script about the alpha and omega and the details in this story might upset that narrative.) None of this would have happened if David Kirkpatrick hadn't suggested that I take the reports people were saying and put them in chronological order. Thanks to David who wrote the foreword to the book.

https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Greatest-Story-Never-Told-Audiobook/B0C34RJ8PM

Here's the introduction to the AUDIBLE of the book (LINKED ABOVE) set with some photos for context.

https://youtu.be/MmvQ7TaDgA4

This came to me in a dream. As fans of the podcast Hacking the Afterlife have heard in the past, sometimes things show up in dreams as ideas we should pursue. I had this notion that I should do some kind of "clip" about the book THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD AS TOLD BY JESUS AND THOSE WHO KNEW HIM. I haven't done much publicity for the book - mainly because it's a controversial topic that people shy away from. Which is understandable. I shied away from it as well, until someone convinced me to put it out into the world. We'll see what people think of this "promo" and I may do them for all of my books, and perhaps add more chapters. Here's five minutes of the 18 minute introduction from the book THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD AS TOLD BY JESUS AND THOSE WHO KNEW HIM. Enjoy.

Monday

Podcast with Kristin Taylor - "How I Made it Through" about the book THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD AS TOLD BY JESUS AND THOSE WHO KNEW HIM."

From a fan

Here's the latest podcast about THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD AS TOLD BY JESUS AND THOSE WHO KNEW HIM via Kirstin Taylor's "How I Made it Through."

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/season-3-episode-5-richard-martini-returns/id1605802615?i=1000626065210


54 min

 

Season 3, Episode 5: Richard Martini Returns!How I Made It Through

    • Spirituality

In this episode of How I Made It Through, host Kristin Taylor welcomes back Richard Martini, a renowned American film director, producer, screenwriter, and freelance journalist who has made a name for himself in researching the afterlife, or what he refers to as the flip side. They discuss Richard's latest book, The Greatest Story Never Told, which provides a captivating account of Jesus's life as told by Jesus and those who knew him.


Key discussion points in this episode include:


- Richard's journey into researching the afterlife, starting with his encounter with a grieving friend who found comfort in hypnotherapy.

- His experiences filming people under hypnosis and the consistent patterns he found in their accounts of seeing Jesus.

- The concept of 'flecks of gold', a specific detail that repeatedly comes up in descriptions of Jesus's eyes.

- Richard's conversations with mediums who also report similar themes and messages, further corroborating his findings.

- The intriguing alternate story of Jesus's life that Richard has pieced together from his research, which challenges traditional narratives.

- Richard's interaction with a shaman who had an encounter with Mary, the mother of Jesus, and the new insights this brought to his understanding of Mary's experiences.


This episode is perfect for those who are both curious and open-minded about spirituality, the afterlife, and the possibility of alternate narratives to well-known religious stories.


Another fan!






Tuesday

Jesus and the Flipside

 Simon Bown had me on his podcast today to talk about the latest book THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD AS TOLD BY JESUS AND THOSE WHO KNEW HIM.

https://www.amazon.com/Greatest-Story-Never-Told-Jesus-ebook/dp/B0BZWY2MRN

At some point we thought we'd see if we could talk to Jesus. 

Simon did a guided meditation where he walked us into a cabin in the woods where Jesus and he had a conversation. I supplied the questions, Jesus gave the answers.

I asked him if he'd read the book. "I've got a lot to do" he said. I asked him about the events in the book. "Accurate for the most part." I asked him about the description of him on the cross. He said "It wasn't me up there."

He then told a story that is reported in the Qur'an.  That a confederate, a follow who looked just like him was on the cross. He said that the volunteer was a Roman soldier who looked just like him, who switched with him while Jesus was being beaten up.  That because the face was so bloody, no one recognized the switch.

That's how he was able to leave after three days. 

He confirmed the detail that he was married to Mary Magdalene. That they had and lost children. (He said 9, I've heard other accounts of 5 and lost 3.) He said they went to France first, then later to Kashmir.

That he also traveled with his brother "James" although he used another word.  He said that eventually Mary Magdalene returned to France after his death at 87.

(I've heard 68 as well).  

It's contrary to the story that's told in "The Greatest Story Never Told as Told by Jesus and Those Who Knew Him."  I will transcribe this podcast, the Jesus portion, and include it in future copies (something you can do with publishing these days. Upload a newer version with fixed typos, new chapters, as I often do.)

Some woman left a review on Amazon complaining about the typos.  There was an errant copy that existed briefly on Kindle - published an earlier draft - that has been corrected. So if anyone wants to, they can just go to Kindle and reupload the book for the corrected text.

Or for new chapters.

Interesting information. Simon did two things that corroborated for me that he as talking to the Alpha and Omega. His eyes were brown "with flecks of gold."  When asked to change into something more casual he changed into jeans and a tee shirt. In this case "The Grateful Dead."

Fellow has a sense of humor.

We got him to laugh a couple of times. Simon said "Jesus is laughing."

I said "Well, then this podcast is worth it just to make Jesus laugh."

It should be out in a week or so, will post a link asap to his podcast: https://www.pastliveshypnosis.co.uk/podcast-2/

Enjoy!

Friday

Hacking the Afterlife with Kobe, Marilyn, Jesus and Jennifer

 Here's a link to the iands talk tomorrow: Sat 2/18 at 10 am PST, 1 pm EST.  Iands Talk with Rich Martini

https://isgo.iands.org/webinar/revisiting-the-nde/?fbclid=IwAR3pvEuzWM7IiGy3cyRElCbt-cfh-F4Wb1FD_TMQb2bxHQqf_eKJ4LXypP8


https://youtu.be/Nl4SRMXJdWo

For those not familiar with this podcast; Jennifer Shaffer is an intuitive medium who works with law enforcement nationwide on missing person cases. She does pro bono work daily for them, and once a week we get together and see what we can learn from the flipside.  We've been doing this weekly for 8 years, the last two on our podcast. 

     I'm a filmmaker, have written and/or directed 8 theatrical feature films, a couple of documentaries.  Some years ago, my best friend died in my arms and started coming to visit me. Instead of being freaked out by it (and her showing up to friends and family members) I started to dig into how that might be. That's resulted in 10 books (Flipside, etc) and four with Jennifer Shaffer.

     We met a couple of years ago, I brought my camera to her office to document what might happen.  Those clips are in HackingTheAfterlifeFilm.com - also in "Talking to Bill Paxton" (MartiniFilms.com).  My latest book is DivineCouncils.com - where I did a guided meditation with twenty professionals who had never heard of me or the work - all were able to meet guides, visit their councils and talk about what that experience was like.

     In this edition, a number of people show up that we've spoken with before. We interviewed Kobe just after his passing, it's the last chapter in the book "Backstage Pass to the Flipside 3" - where he talks about his journey, and I ask him questions in Italian.

     Eventually members of his family have met with Jennifer - so it's not unusual for us that he might stop by.  The construct is this; my friend who passed away is on the flipside, and has organized a "group meeting" or a class as we call it, not to teach folks on the planet, but to teach people on the flipside how to communicate using frequency, images, visualizations on the flipside.

     Jennifer may get an image, let's say of a character from a TV show, and it may be their way of giving her a thought so that I could say, "Do you mean someone who shares the same name of that character in the TV show wants to speak to us?" That happens often.

     As noted, Jennifer is doing her best to translate what is coming to her. Like a translator at the UN, the people on the flipside are downloading a lot of information, and she does her best to catch the meaning, syntax and general idea of what someone wants to impart.

     A number of people stop by who've been interviewed before; Prince ("I was addicted to jumping off pianos, which caused me to use pain killers"), Robin Williams ("Love Love"). Marilyn stops by - refers to something I was writing at MartiniZone.com the other day - and when I asked if she wanted to talk about the manner of her passing, she said she wanted to talk about how she had two children waiting for her on the flipside. Both whom had not come to term.  

     That concept has been repeated in the research - consistently. A number of people in our podcast have mentioned it, the idea of "those we don't have are waiting for us on the flipside."  Harry Dean Stanton said the same thing - and I was able to verify it (but don't mention it in the podcast.) It's in "Backstage Pass to the Flipside."  Harry came through after he passed and before his memorial. I asked him what he wanted me to impart to his friends (as noted.) He also said that when he passed, "He was in a room with five women" and when he got to the flipside, he was met by a "baby that he didn't have in life."  In other words, a child was there to greet him with this profound unconditional love.

     At his memorial that I went to a week later, I asked someone who was with him at his deathbed to describe the scene. She said "There were five of us with him, all women."  I asked if he had said anything unusual while she was in the room. She said "Yes, he asked me to hand him the baby. But there was no baby in the room."

     I had heard THE SAME THING from Harry on the Flipside via Jennifer a week earlier.

     At some point, the Alpha and Omega stops by - and mentions the one thing he wishes people would not do, that is "get freaked out by his name." (Jesus). I've had a number of interviews with him via various mediums, different hypnotherapy sessions, and multiple guided meditation sessions. As noted in the podcast, I've finished that book and am doing the audible as we speak. Apparently, they wanted to know "when I was going to finish it." Soon.

     As noted, he's known as Issa in the Middle East, was referred to by the moniker in the Qu'ran, other documents in Persia, and describes his ability to be "everyone at once" in terms of the various planes of existence we're on.

     That's not to say that he's the only one who can do that - there are others who can, who share that "unconditional love" frequency (and in his case, in our first interview 8 years ago, said "I brought more of source energy to my lifetime, when people are near me they experience more of that "unconditional love.") 

     I quote him from other interviews and ask again if that's accurate; he's said "all religions point to the same garden." "The Bible is metaphor, all religious texts are metaphor." "We are all walking each other home, allow me to walk beside you, you don't have to follow me." "My retelling my story is not alternate if it's true."

     So thanks to all the folks who showed up, Jennifer's dad Jim, all those people that demonstrate they aren't gone, they just aren't here.  If one has an issue with this podcast, I recommend doing some research into the concept that consciousness is not confined by the brain, I recommend the research from UVA Medical School DOPS, with Dr. Greyson's AFTER, Dr. Tucker's BEFORE, Dr. Kelly's CONSCIOUSNESS UNBOUND. 

     In terms of the hypnotherapy research, I recommend the thousands of case studies from Dr. Helen Wambach (RELIVING PAST LIVES) Dr. Weiss (MANY LIVES, MANY MASTERS) Michael Newton (JOURNEY OF SOULS.)  My latest book is DivineCouncils.com - where I invited 50 people, half whom had never heard of councils, who visited them, met their guides, teachers, etc.

     As noted, it's up to the guest list on the flipside who will be invited, and as demonstrated, I brought up two individuals I had been reading about (Thomas the Doubter via the Gospel of Thomas, the Acts of Thomas, and that other fellow who the Book of Job claims was on "God's council.")  Just want to point out, I asked Luana if she was interested in us interviewing either one, and she said "No, just finish the book."

     Nothing quite like getting career advice from the flipside. Hope this information helps someone out there who may need to hear it. Links: FlipsideMyFilm.com - HackingTheAfterlifeFilm.com - MartiniFilms.com - JenniferShaffer.com




Good Friday and The Second Coming

" What's so good about it?"

In the ongoing interviews we've had with people who report that they can access Jesus, or the frequency of Jesus, or the fellow himself, the comment has come up that "If Jesus returned to see what folks were doing in his memory, it would be celebrating the worst day of his life."

That may have come from a comedian - but the point is apt.  

The guy lives a life of love, loving, being loved, spreading love - and the symbol we use in his honor is from the worst afternoon of his journey. 'Hi Jesus! Look, I'm wearing your cross!" "Um, that's not my cross, actually, those Roman fellows made that thing."

Allow me to be heretical for a moment.

Tiziano Vecellio

To be clear, scholars agree he was on the cross for a day. 

Perhaps an afternoon. Scourging aside - there is a sequence of events in his story that can be examined. He's put on a cross alongside two other fellas who'd been there longer. Perhaps all week long as was the custom.

He's given some gall - wine mixed with myrrh - by a soldier and a few moments later appears to give up the ghost. (Passes out or is knocked out, it's a debate.)

Meanwhile Joseph of Arimethea is in Pilate's office asking for the "living body of Jesus" off the cross. (According to the original Greek and Aramaic, the word "Soma" he used was for a living person.)  Pilate reportedly replies, "you can take the corpse down. (Ptoma) "  And then they do. Estimates could be three hours, perhaps longer out there in front of everyone.

Soldier reportedly stabs him in the side - and water and blood flow out. (See Livor Mortis)  Well, that usually indicates someone who is alive - as blood generally doesn't flow from dead bodies, but be that as it may, the next piece of the story is that he's met at the cave by Nicodemus with 75 to 90 pounds of Aloe and Myrrh.

Interesting detail - myrrh being the same thing brought to Jesus at his birth - but it represents not an ointment for the dead (else why bring it to Mary after she's given birth?) but an ointment for the living. A restorative. As it still is. Same goes for aloe.

Since there's never been a Jewish tradition of anointing the dead (despite the good book's admonition and claim there was) with any oils or paste or goop. They bury their dead before sundown so they don't have to pack them in salt or goop or smelling salts. Never have. Never will. 

So the only logical thing is that our pal Nicodemus has brought along a whole bunch of bags of restoratives to this cave.  Not "anointed the dead" products. Who needs 75-90 pounds to do that? I mean, can we say "overkill?" ("Nico! Enough with the ointments already! You could have brought a pound - but 75 pounds?")

And then what happens?

According to the guards, who reported to the Sanhedrin, "his followers came and took him to another cave."  According to the gospels, they claim this was a lie - and that the guards, who were working for the Sanhedrin were covering up for being "asleep on the job."  (That's a quote, literally. They were lying because they slept on the job.) 

‘His disciples came by night and stole him away while we were asleep.’ Matthew 28:11–15

But hang on. The next day - when a posse shows up to find him - where'd the 75 pounds of aloe and myrrh go? 

Every report in the good book has an empty cave.  Empty except for a cloth.  (Reportedly the shroud.) A couple of accounts mention angels (one account has them standing, another has them sitting. Must get tiring flying around all the time. But I digress.)  

Never mind that the shroud shows someone who is alive (the dead don't bleed, and whoever was in the shroud was bleeding) and then when his pals show up at the cave, it's rolled away and he's gone... or in the garden disguised as a gardener - but either way - no one mentions the 75 pounds of aloe and myrrh. Or the bags they were carried in. All used on one afternoon? Really?

Where'd they go? Vanished into thin air?  Lugged out the back of the cave?  No one mentions them.

Based on dozens of interviews with people who claim to recall either a lifetime in that era, or being a witness to events on that day - it's not me claiming these reports, I'm only filming them - according to these reports from people both under hypnosis, not under hypnosis, or somehow accessing this "past life memory" - they claim the same thing. 

That with the help of his pals, followers, some of the Roman legion, he was allowed to escape. He figured out a way and method to survive the ordeal. He used his incredible healing powers as well as conscious abilities to not get killed on the cross. 

He didn't "escape" or leave the region immediately - people claim the aloe and myrrh was used to restore him prior to going to visit his apostles, which was at least 80 miles away from Jerusalem - so it's not like he left the cave on Sunday for supper with his pals. Reportedly, it took months for him to heal.

As reported, his followers were as astounded as anyone to see that he still existed. 


Who else would stick his finger in someone's wound and say "Is this really you?"  I mean, c'mon Thomas.

(Reportedly Jesus returned the favor to Thomas - in the "Acts of Thomas" from the Gnostic Gospels, Jesus tells Thomas to go to India to preach, Thomas refuses, so Jesus sells him to an Arab trader to work on his ship. 

Thomas claims he was forced to go to India, where he landed in Kerala. The spot where he landed became an ancient church, a new one exists next door (despite the Catholic church claiming it didn't happen).  Those Kerala Christians follow a form of Christianity closer to what Thomas preached.)

The St. Thomas Church near where he landed
near the ruins of an ancient church built
in his honor in Kerala. Lots of Christians not recognized
by any Church (other than Thomas) 

That he had survived this ordeal, with the help of some pals, with the help of his ability to heal, with the help of his years traveling the silk road and learning esoteric yogas that allow for consciousness to be outside the body (see "the six yogas of Naropa" for examples) - they claim, I don't claim - they claim that he survived this ordeal.

So - the good news is - he reportedly survived. 


I find it amusing when I cite these reports, people are offended. F
urious. Ready to light the pyre. "Jesus survived? Heresy!"  

But in retrospect it was a miracle that he did - survived a Roman crucifixion. 

And to do it with style, grace and love for everyone involved (including his pal Judas, who in the Gospel of Judas claims that Jesus came to him and said in effect "You have to turn me in, in order for this ruse to work."  "If you love me,  you'll do as I have asked." Quoting Judas now.) The story has many levels of grace as shown. 

(Never mind that the Qur'an reports he survived.  He's called "Issa" or "Isa" in that book, as he was known throughout the Middle East. People in the reports about him have called him Esaiah, and even "Essie.") (See "Hacking the Afterlife" for those reports) 

Hacking the Afterlife

The reports continue that he traveled with his "wife" (Mary of Magda, reportedly wed in an Essene ceremony prior to his ordeals) and together with their family (at least one, later 5) found his way to Kashmir and lived out his days as a preacher who continued to speak about life everlasting, and how the flipside is a kingdom where everyone is welcomed. Again - not my story. I am reporting.

But that's another story. 

This story for today is to say, when we think of "Good Friday" maybe it's good because we can challenge the narrative with this other story - how some pals figured out a way to save the life of their friend, and his unique ability to be a healer and someone who understood reality on a different level, he was able to live out the rest of his days in relative obscurity. Happy. Still preaching, albeit to a different flock.

During one of the sessions that I filmed of speaking with him, when asked "why are you allowing this alternate story to emerge of what happened to you?" he replied "It's not alternate if it's truth."

https://youtu.be/yP2geeqWZ8w

And then we have the people who claim he still exists - that he has come to them in dreams, visions, near death events - and given them new information. People who claim he's accessible to anyone - that he "never left" because no one "leaves" - we step outside this realm and into another one. That we can incarnate from, reincarnate from, and that he's done so since then.

Not gone. Just not here.

It's not my belief, opinion or theory that people say these things consistently. I just film them doing so.

Here's an interview with him via Jamie Butler (from the Channeling Erik Website). I've filmed another interview with Jamie and him sometime later, have yet to post the transcripts of that interview. It's equally mind bending.

https://youtu.be/HMbr4WXrM9A

So when we think of Easter - perhaps think of the idea of resurrecting this fellow's life, becoming aware that he still may exist, that reportedly he's available to anyone who needs his help, that's he eager and willing to help anyone who reaches out for him.  

It's an odd way of saying "Happy Easter" - because it includes the idea that we can all resurrect him by examining his story in closer detail. 

That the "Second Coming" may be our awareness that he never left. Or that no one "leaves" - they return "home" to the "kingdom of home" where everyone reports a feeling of unconditional love.  

But they actually use the word "home" instead of "heaven." 

Again - I am just reporting.

Graphic from the shroud with filters

When asked during an "interview" why it was that he had such a profound effect on people who have seen him since then (hard to breathe, tears, red faces) he said "I brought more of source with me to this lifetime. When people are near me, they feel that unconditional love." ("Hacking the Afterlife" Chapter 18: "People who claim to have met Jesus.")

To which I replied "Not so much with the Romans." 

And the person who was accessing him in the interview (in "Hacking the Afterlife") said "He's laughing. He just laughed when you said that."

Which is a small Easter egg unto itself.


My two Easter eggs cents.

Wednesday

Autism and the Flipside

A person on Quora asked the following question in the "Hacking the Afterlife" forum.  

I am sharing the answer in the hopes it may help someone.



 Do people with autism receive a compensation for their hardship in the afterlife?

My answer:

"Its a complicated topic but based on the research, our notion of reward and trauma is skewed. People who can refer to their previous lifetimes, either through hypnotherapy, meditation or mediumship claim we bring about a third of our conscious energy to a lifetime.

That the rest remains “home.” So the bulk or roughly two thirds of who we are is always home.

In the reports of people who recalled having a lifetime with some form of the spectrum, or accessing the higher self to ask questions about a sibling or relative, they report the same things.

That a person may have brought less to this lifetime. ( The number when asked “how much of your conscious energy was in that lifetime?” The answer is often around ten percent.) It's hard to discuss if one isn't aware of how incarnation works or consciousness functions.

But the most eloquent response I've filmed was during a conversation between a medium and an avatar, someone considered the epitome of love.

Question was asked about their granddaughter's autism and the response was “consider their life as a window of love. Their life is closer to source because its unencumbered by the normal things humans stress and worry about. Their journey is one of love on a more profound level.”

It brought to mind the Mormon tradition where they reportedly consider autistic children as “angels, closer to God" because of how they experience the world and how they encourage others to love unconditionally.

Based on the research, its the “older wiser souls" who volunteer for the more difficult journeys. So the person currently in this physically challenged journey has reportedly volunteered to help teach others lessons in empathy, compassion or love.

But again, its a temporary condition, as are all physical conditions. Consciousness doesn’t arise from the brain, and when people return home they are aware of why they made that decision to experience life in that fashion. My two cents."



Today, I heard this response from a mom on Quora:

"As a mom, I can speak for most parents of a low-functioning autistic, and often difficult children, the perpetual grief is never-ending with areas of reprieve. The parents may ask themselves, “what did I do in this life or any life to deserve such hardships?” We have moments of feeling punished even when we fiercely love and protect these helpless human beings. The thought of a pact with my son before we were mother and son is a view I’ve never had and thank you. “We are all just walking each other home” are words to live by."



So, this morning, I realized that in my most recent, yet to be published book, there's an "Interview with Jesus" where he addresses this topic.  So I'm sharing this unpublished portion of an interview I filmed in 2016 just after publishing "Hacking the Afterlife" (and why it's not in that book but will be in an upcoming book.)

"Thanks for sharing your son… I can only point to the research.  I found it interesting to learn how in Utah, they consider children on the spectrum as “angels closer to God.”  Oddly enough - that appears to be accurate.

I’ll share part of this interview that I filmed with medium Jamie Butler, who was accessing “Jesus” in a room filled with attendees a couple of years back. It was after the book “Hacking the Afterlife” was published, so I didn’t transcribe or include it in the research… until recently when someone bugged me about it.

This is from my unpublished book “Finding Jesus on the Flipside” - I’m sharing it because, I found it an odd confirmation of what the research indicates in this area.

Again - we are in a room of people who have come to see medium Jamie Butler speak. When I went to see her on a Friday night, I told her that someone had emailed me and said “Jesus appeared in my kitchen last night while I was washing dishes and told me to tell you to go and see Jamie speak.”  Which is an odd email to get- and even odder to discover Jamie was in my home town that weekend.

So I went and mentioned this odd message - and Jamie said “Well, come back tomorrow and let’s see if we can “dial him up.”

Jamie in the woods

The following day, I filmed Jamie channeling a Victorian age woman (her muse, “Grace”) who often helps her with difficult conversations - and in this one, after about a half hour of her directly answering questions on Jesus’ behalf (personal questions that Jamie could not know, but he did) - one of the women in the audience asked the following question:

Question: “Could you help me understand what I can do to help my son who is autistic?” 

Jamie as “Grace”: “He says for others to listen to this, “Because it is not just a mother’s love for a son, it’s a love to help another.” He says, “When they (a person with disability) are not having an equal experience of life that you are, when you can see someone struggling in ways, it cannot be compared to you and your experiences.” 

He says “I bring this to your attention, because I want you, every time you want to reach out to mend, to heal, to help, to cure; to step back and look at your hands.” He said, “Notice that they’re empty. They’re empty for a reason; you are not to do the work for them.”  

“You are to be present with them, you are to encourage them to find their answers. Now if you’re wondering how a mother to a young son is to give the power to a young child, what good would this do? Autistic children come into this life, and they keep their light closely linked to the beyond; to "home." They engage in this world as if they were on TV but sitting in a room at home in heaven.” 

(Important to note; “Step back and look at your hands. Notice that they’re empty. You are not to do the work for them.” We come to the planet to experience life, and by taking over the steering wheel from our children they can’t learn to drive. Also, he mentions the word “home” – as in not being here, but back “home” where we all come from.)

“They’re not really on Earth.  So for them to act like you, or to have experiences like you, that is not what is needed. That is not the level of success; the level of success is to be next to the person that holds the issue - the suffering, the disease, the mental imbalance, the need.”  

“Advocate for them in the ways that they want, pay attention more to the child, to the person who needs, and not to what the doctors speak of. Though they are brilliant, though they are studied and very intelligent,” he says, “what is most valuable is (to ask) “What does the child need?”  

“This experience is all for great reasons. It is not about suffering, and it is not to understand what loss is, it is to understand what light is, that is why this experience is in your life.” He says “Thank you. I love you.” 

(Note: Hearing Jesus say that children with mental issues are “not really on Earth” is mind bending to hear. But it is in line with the research. People report we bring about “30%”’ of our conscious energy to a lifetime, but those who have dementia, mental issues use roughly “10%” of that energy.  That the rest is “back home.” So this comment is in line with the research. I can’t emphasize how startling this is to hear him say. Also, Grace the channeler can be archaic. Staid is defined as “Sedate, respectable, and unadventurous. Old English from 1557.” Britannica)”

Again, I’m sharing this because some folks may need to hear it. 

I found this passage to be in line with the other reports and research - the fact that I’m hearing it from Jamie, who is channeling “Grace” who is channeling “Jesus” - must give us pause. It’s interpretation layered upon interpretation. But what makes it life affirming, is that if we consider the possibility, it allows us to explore things in a different fashion. 


My two cents. Here's Jamie Butler's webpage:


Hacking the Afterlife with Kimberly Ray, an E.T., Awashonks, Archangel R...


Kimberly-Ray appears in the film "Talking to Bill Paxton" on Gaia. She's a pal, and has a great gift.  We have an unusual chat here with her guides and teachers, including a historical figure I'd never heard of but later researched (accurately detailed.)  Also she speaks briefly with an Archangel and the avatar known as Jesus.

Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer, a Doctor friend and Jesus


Another unusual chat with a friend of Jennifer Shaffer (Dr. Moy) and a friend to everyone, Jesus. 

Saturday

Unconditional Love and Rose Petals from Mary

I write often about the flipside on the Quora website. 

                Speaking words of wisdom... let it be. (quoting Paul's mom)

I "administer" a forum called "Hacking the Afterlife" and try to limit my answers/comments/observations to questions based on the research or my own personal experiences. (In general I don't post comments that refer to other books or philosophies - after all, I'm taking the time to respond to these comments based on my books, and if I responded to comments on other people's books I'd have no time to do anything.

That being said, over 14 million folks have "viewed my posts."  I don't buy into metrics in general ("How many likes did you get? How many subscribers can I hire in India?") But it is the lingua franca of our planet - I can only say, if one person has been helped by something I've written, I'm happy to have done so.










The most pushback I get in comments comes from the left and right wings of the spiritual spectrum. (Not political.  There are people adamant and furious on all levels these days, even "middle of the roaders.")  But as an observation, the angry posts are equal from the "religious believers" to the "science non believers."  I'm an equal opportunity heretic.

A scientist might weigh in with "BS! This is all nonsense and woo woo!" (I think it's hilarious that a scientist would opt to use a phrase that was a drink in Boston in the 1600's. "Woo" is still served at the Wayside Inn, and for those who know it, can attest to being in "slumberland" when they try it.)

So "Woo woo" aside, (or as I call it "Major woo") they're offended by the research. (And use sandbox terms to describe their umbrage.) 

I often cite the scientists who have touched upon the same concepts ("is consciousness produced by the brain?" by Dr. Greyson on YouTube is a good place to start) but when I cite Ed and Emily Kelly PhD's "Irreducible Mind," David Presti PhD's "Mind Beyond Brain" the 1500 cases of reincarnation being studied by Dr. Jim Tucker ("Return to Life") or the 100 peer reviewed studies by Dr. Greyson - they don't want to hear that either. "It's all woo!"

Then I have the religious folks who assume that I must be citing Satan or a demon, or want to argue that the Good Book is sacrosanct in all it's fear and vitriol. That lightning is about to smack me upside the head or that I'm "cheating myself out of "heaven"" by denying its existence.

For the record there too - I don't deny its existence. It exists. It's just not referred to as "heaven" in the research. 

People refer to it as "home."  That's consistent. In all the 100 cases I've filmed, 50 with the help of hypnotherapists, people call it the same danged thing. Not heaven. Home. And they claim that the feeling of "unconditional love" exists there throughout.  

Scientists will argue that's projection, or someone read about it and is imagining it or is "cryptomnesia" - something they read or saw before. 

The problem with that idea is that unconditional love doesn't exist on the planet. 

Between pets and owners sometimes, between family members sometimes, but for the most part it's not from the pulpit (they preach "conditional love" - if you follow my rules, or obey, you can be loved) it's not from TV or novels ("Love lost" is the theme) As a form of cryptomnesia, people can't be "remembering a concept" that has never been expressed on the planet. (Or so rarely that it's hard to conceive.) 

However I'm happy to state that everyone I've mentioned the term to nods in agreement. 

They often "say it" while under deep hypnosis, say it without hypnosis recalling a near death event - or say it about a person they fell in love with at "first sight." "I felt unconditionally loved."  I challenge anyone to point to any book, movie or zeitgeist experience that uses the term. (Aside from my own.)

In "It's a Wonderful Afterlife" one guide said "God is beyond the capacity of the human brain to comprehend. It's not physically possible. However you can experience God by opening your heart to everyone and all things."  

Later, transcribing this sentence (said to a hypnotherapist on camera) I tried to think of where this jaded movie executive might have heard of that concept before. "Unconditional love" is opening one's heart to everyone and all things. It just doesn't exist on the planet (outside of monks, a few lamas, and maybe my grandmother Dionisia Lusardi Martini.) Worth observing "everyone knows what I'm talking about even though no one has heard the concept before."

But this post is about a transcription I ran into yesterday.  

It was an interview I did with the medium Kimberly Babcock.  Kimberly was visiting Los Angeles three years ago, and Dr. Elisa Medhus, who maintains the "Channeling Erik" website where she has ongoing conversations with her son on the flipside, asked if I would meet her as they were going to begin working together.


Kimberly's book is here:

I brought my camera, but was forced to film in a restaurant in West Hollywood as I had not planned our meeting well. Some of that footage is in the film "Talking to Bill Paxton" on Gaia, and in it Kimberly demonstrates her amazing ability to report what's going on over on the flipside.

(Quick to add; for fans of the work Jennifer Shaffer and I have been doing for five years, she is amazing as well, as everyone knows who has worked with her - and we are continuing to do our work together. So my citing another medium is to point out that if one works with someone who knows what they're doing, or has abilities to do so, they will get positive results.)

But when I ran into this transcript yesterday, I realized I was so focused on the conversations with my old friend Bill Paxton that I neglected to put the "meeting with Kimberly's council" in the book "Architecture of the Afterlife."  


With my pal in action.

(And if I am every asked to have a "new edition" of "Architecture" I will include it. I wanted to share it with folks, and make some comments in the margins so to speak.  This may not make sense to folks who have not read "Architecture of the Afterlife" but will when they read it.)


"Kimberly is a minister, medium and intuitive and is from Ohio.  We met at Hugo’s restaurant in West Hollywood. After the first part of the interview, Bill popped into my mind; I hadn’t planned on asking questions about him but took the opportunity to do so. My questions are in italics, Kimberly’s replies are in bold. 

I asked Kim about her first experience talking to spirit, and from that I shifted to ask her to “visit her council.” (I hadn’t done this too often at this point, and it’s later that I do so in “Architecture of the Afterlife.”)  But in this case, I didn’t transcribe this portion, and I present it here for the first time.

Kimberly is a medium, and I generally ask mediums to describe the “first time they realized they could speak to spirit.” Kimberly describes an event where she found herself speaking to Erik Medhus, the deceased son of Dr. Medhus, who is also in this book. At some point I ask her if she can speak to her guide. She sees an angel – whom she calls Gabriel. I ask “Is this the same Gabriel that people refer to as an Archangel?” She says “He says, “Yes.”  I turn my camera on.

 

Kimberly: What’s interesting is this thing is shifting from what you’re saying back to this room, this room where I saw Jesus and Gabriel.

Richard: Let’s go back there now and talk to them. Let’s shift your consciousness to Gabriel’s point of view; what does Kimberly look like to you?

"Like a light, a light in the shape of a porpoise. The way that I would describe her, she looks very, vertical like straight up and down." (Gestures with her hands to indicate energy up and down.)

Is he tall or short?

I’m not getting that kind of description. More like color.

Is the color you’re seeing solid, or something else?

Before you asked that question, I saw this color. This is wild, it’s… there is color on the outside, lavender when you go inside ... from my perspective, I’m wondering what the backside is.. it’s like yellow.

(Note: When someone sees or hears an answer “before I ask the question” I realize that they are connected to what I’m asking them. Since then, I’ve heard this is a way to confirm that one is “connected.”)

So the color is purple on the outside and yellow on the inside. What do those colors represent in terms of your spiritual evolvement?

Like the yellow gold... it’s more yellow than gold. "It represents “wisdom” or the time related to the evolution of the soul – the purple represents... (Aside: This is all coming from Gabriel) The ability to move from one realm to the next."

Which color represents that movement?

"The purple."

To move in different realms and planes?

"Yes.  Okay, the yellow is like the inner part... it… (represents) what you’ve learned or evolved as a soul. The purple represents the capacity to continue."

Okay. Gabriel can you show you her council?

(Kimberly laughs) He says, “Why sure, she’s never asked.”

Describe the journey to your council.

There are two beings at a big long table, there’s two that I recognize, (then) there are 8 altogether.

Going from left to right, describe them, or if they have names?

They’re male. “I told you she prefers male.”

But the councils members are they all male?

Quite a few are male.

Left to right, let’s go to the first council member to your left. What quality does he represent in your spiritual evolvement?

(Note: This is question I ask when people aren’t aware of why they have a council, or even who the individuals are on their council. It’s a “skipping ahead” question because I already know that everyone on the council represents some spiritual aspect of the person I’m in the room with – I can’t see anyone, I’m in a restaurant looking at Kimberly through a lens.  But she can see them, and she can ask them questions. Even if she doesn’t know what I’m referring to.)

It seems like my connection with him is to understand and share that there’s no need for protection. He represents no need for protection… to avoid fear.

He represents the lack of fear or the ability to not be afraid?

Like there’s no need to protect themselves.

Like “openness.” Or the mediums ability to be “totally open to whatever comes through without judging it.”  Let’s go to the next one. What’s his role in your life?

That’s so weird, he’s telling me he goes by a name…I see this spelling, Asur, but he doesn’t go by that, he’s saying to call him “Zeus.”

Should we call you Asur or Zeus?

(Shrugs) He says, “He goes by Zeus.”

Are you the lead member of this council?

He says, “There is a person who is, but it’s not him... There is a lead person but I’m the one she talks to all the time.” He says one is protection, one is safety, one is a continual support – needing to feel comfort or comforted.

(Note: Interesting that he’s going down the row of what each council member represents, prior to my asking him the question.)

He says…. they’re showing me incarnation like for an infant.  Almost like going from an infant to this big gap in between.  Remembering who I am – like he represents “Remembrance.” He says, “In order for me to trust myself to who I truly am, I have to trust this.”

Okay, who’s next?

There are these two who I see all the time. This man... I’ve asked for his name many times, he just wants to use the word “Chief.” He’s Native American, he has a full head dress on.

(Note: For those keeping score, this is the sixth council member I’ve met wearing full headdress, and about the 12th person with a memory of a lifetime as a Native American.)

May I ask what tribe?

He’s saying “Little Foot” or “Black foot.”

(Note: Blackfoot is a tribe based in Oklahoma, and I interview someone from that tribe in the book “Architecture of the Afterlife.”)

Let me ask you Chief; did Kim have a lifetime as a Native American?

He says, “Two.”

What tribe was she with, can you show or tell her?

Sounds like – Powell.... powa... (to herself) Wow.

What’s the “wow” from?

That’s interesting, um I have had visions of this life, but didn’t know what it was, a long time ago, I had quick flashes of being a past life Native American female who slept with everyone but my mate, was found out… and because of that, I was burned alive. I was tied up that’s when they burned me… I keep hearing Pau... Powel... Paiute? 

Where in the U.S. was this tribe?

Feel like it’s from a map if I go way over actually to state of California, upper right hand corner.

(Note: Northern Paiute are from northeastern California, northwestern Nevada, eastern Oregon, and southern Idaho. (Wikipedia) Kim may have been recalling another reason. In a 1967 UC Berkeley paper on Paiute practices, in 1902 a settler reported a man “burned alive” for practicing witchcraft. In a 1938 UC Berkeley study, tribes “frowned upon adultery,” but witchcraft was the crime with capital punishment; “If (the) witch refused to cure (a) sick person or stop malevolent practices, patient's relatives, after obtaining chief's sanction, often killed witch… Murder of witch might be accomplished by.. (being) lowered over cliff, shot; bound with hair rope, tied to tree, (and) burned alive. Berkeley Press “Tuibatulabal Ethnography 1938)

(Trying to be light) Well, obviously you survived that, you were able to get past that – further, you chose to be that crazy woman, which sounds kind of fun.

(Kimberly smiles) Crazy!

But you got punished for it – and ultimately, despite the fire, they just sent you back home.

I have to process that.

Thank you Chief for showing that to her.

He said to tell you that he represents – The Chief says that "He never speaks, he wants to tell you this."

Well thank you for giving her that visual. Okay, who is the next person in this group?

Christian, a fellow I met years ago on a plane trip to Sedona.

What does he represent on your council?

“Communication.”

Who else is here? To your left?

(Kimberly hesitates. Tears well in her eyes.) Mother Mary.

What does she look like?

When she stands, each time we address her, she stands and she’s short – She’s wearing blue. She has on something like this (gestures as if a long gown) the lazy feeling of dress that’s blue. She has dark eyes and her hair is brown but not dark brown. Wait, she said “Go a little bit lighter with the description of the hair." Her hair’s not quite so dark.

Thank you. Can I ask you a direct question Mary?

(Kimberly nods). She says, "Ask me a direct question."

Can I ask you a question about the father of your son? It relates to why Kim sees you with brown eyes, and some see him with blue or blue green eyes. Was his father a Greek or Roman soldier who had blue eyes, or did your son have brown eyes and people just get it wrong?

This is her response, first she looks at up… The first thing she said was “He is not like me – but it’s not about his features, he is not like me – and the Greek soldier, that resonated with her deeply.

(Note: Again, when I get the chance I throw in questions that the person I’m speaking with may have no understanding or access to. I’m fairly certain Kimberly has not heard the rumor that Josephus the historian started when he said that the father of Jesus was a Greek Roman soldier named Pantera, and his name was Jesus Ben Pantera (son of Pantera). I don’t know how accurate it is, but the idea that his birth father was someone outside his family is a likely event.)

Please correct me if I’m wrong, from what I understand, in your lifetime you were a servant or housekeeper for a Roman soldier, his name was reportedly Pantera... and he was the father of this child that you had that was so unusual; that’s why his features were different than others from the region.

All I can say is that when you are asking this, her energy – her energy goes right through me... it just keeps flowing. That’s a sign I have for something being truthful. And now this is odd. She’s sprinkling rose petals in front of me. In front of you, Richard.

May I ask why she is sprinkling rose petals in front of me?

I don’t know. A sign of respect perhaps?

Well, we’ve met before, I’ve spoken to her previously.  But let’s ask her directly, Mary, have you been on other councils?

She says "Yes." She says, “The rose petals are safety.” 

So I don’t slip and fall?

"No; for safety."

(Note: As I transcribe this passage I get the impression she’s saying “Don’t screw this up. Go lightly. You are messing with a story that’s not yours to mess with.” I shall attempt to tred lightly, as if walking on those rose petals. She represents unconditional love to many, and when she appears in any of the sessions, the print doesn’t do justice to the face of the person talking about her or to her. They “light up” and become incandescent, as Kim has done in this odd restaurant in West Hollywood. I would not want to step on any of Mary’s rose petals unless she wanted me to.)

I did ask Mary this question before, (via a shaman in Connecticut who channels her often) why when she appeared on the planet, she would say simplistic things about love – not scientific answers, or “evidence that she still exists” – just simple answers about “loving each other unconditionally.” She said at that time, “I answer what people need to hear; that love is universal, and god is love and love is all there is.”

Well, I turned and looked at her and asked her to tell me about my journey, what I’m doing in my work as a medium and she said “You see everybody that you see as her children that need help.” I think she sees us the same way.

Thank you, Mary; I’ll quote you on that. Can you introduce the last person on Kim’s council?

(Kimberly looks. She pauses.) That’s interesting. (Her eyes fill with tears.) She’s like – arr.. She’s like, “This is Edward.”

Is he young or old?

He feels like a young 50ish - but he’s gruff, he’s toughen up kind of guy.

What’s his role?

To strive, to be passionate; he’s so passionate and he’s – not “proud” but grounded. 

Edward what’s your experience hanging out on this council with Mary? Or am I wrong – do you folks hang out together or just come when called?

It’s more of a (“come when called”) response, it’s more like this: “If you have a traffic light, the light turns green, when Kim’s colors shift this way or that way (speaking to spirit) it’s like a magnet, we move when her color is moving – it’s not like a conscious effort – it’s more like I resonate or emanate different colors (that alerts them.) He says “He’s a teacher, a facilitator.”

May I ask if there is a theme for Kim’s many lifetime with regard to the kind of work that she’s doing being a medium?

I am hearing Gabriel speak. This is the archangel, the angel known as Gabriel.

Can I ask Gabriel a question? Are you the same Gabriel that appears often in the Bible and in the Qur’an?

(Listens) He says, "To answer your questions, the names aren’t important, it’s important to understand why you are plugging into these vibrations because of how it changes your essence, your soul, your vibration, it has nothing to do with your physical self, when you plug into these – someone is saying “You’re not one consciousness, you are threads of a compilation, and this is who you are. You belong to the threads, you belong to this classroom; they’re contributing to the essence of who you are."

Can I ask Gabriel to come forward?   

As he comes forward I feel like he’s standing at my right, and I feel… what is the word…? invincible. He’s very tall, like invincible... like “Nothing can touch or harm me, like a strength not of this world...” That’s him (talking); he’s claiming that.

Are you the same Gabriel that people refer to in history or is this a metaphor of Gabriel?

He responds, “I am Gabriel.” That’s how he responds to you – (Kimberly aside) He takes my breath away! It’s so strong.

My question is; are you the same Gabriel that visited Mary, Mohammed and Abraham? Or was that another Gabriel?

(Note: It’s something that occurred to me. People on the flipside offer that their experience is “outside of time.” That 25 years on the planet feels like five minutes to them, or 2500 years here feels like a month or so. Running into someone who lived 5000 years ago wouldn’t be that unusual, and further, if people keep showing up in the Good Book with the same name, who is giving them that name? Apologies for the repetition, but I asked it three different ways.)

Before I can answer that he’s got a massive rope around his chest and he keeps saying to look at it... it represents strength – it feels really dry, he’s showing me all the threads, how they’re intertwined. They’re close together and its really strong – He says “See where it’s frayed? It’s really weak. That’s what you’re supposed to teach; tell people to come together because together we’re stronger, and when we aren’t (together) we are weak.” It’s taking my breath away.

Is this rope something you earned?

“No, it’s just a metaphor to help her understand what I need to say.”

(Note: I’ve never had someone on the flipside offer a metaphor for the purpose of sharing an insight. The idea that he is showing her a massively frayed rope to give her a metaphor is mind bending. She isn’t creating this metaphor, but seeing it in real time. She saw it first, then reported what he said about the rope draped over his shoulder. “It’s frayed – but when the threads are together, they are stronger. You humans need to come together to be stronger.”)

Gabriel, is there anyone else in this group we need to speak with?

He says “Yes, about the story about the cave – he says go back to that question.”

(Note: This is a first as well. Someone on her council insisting I return to a question about Jesus being in the cave. He wants to clarify a point that Kimberly could not be aware of.)

So, you are the same Gabriel who runs into these people in the Bible and the Qur’an?

(She nods) But he keeps saying “Resurrection.” I asked him if that’s what he meant about the cave. He keeps saying “Resurrection.” (Kimberly aside) Wow. Yes sir. He keeps giving this gesture (hand back and forth) over and over and saying “Resurrection.”

(Note: She’s moving her hand back and forth, back and forth and saying “Resurrection.” He said “I want to return to a concept in the cave” – which was where the “resurrection” of Jesus took place. That is, he was dying on the cross, they pulled him off (still bleeding) and put him in a cave with 75 pounds of restoratives. Then apparently he was moved to another cave where he was healed and able to leave and return back to Kashmir. 

But what part of “being in the cave” is he referring to by using the word “resurrection?”

From Wikipedia; “Resurrection or anastasis is the concept of coming back to life after death… Reincarnation is a similar process hypothesized by other religions, which involves the same person or deity coming back to live in a different body, rather than the same one. The resurrection of the dead is a standard eschatological belief in the Abrahamic religions. As a religious concept, it is used in two distinct respects: a belief in the resurrection of individual souls that is current and ongoing, or else a belief in a singular resurrection of the dead at the end of the world. Some believe the soul is the actual vehicle by which people are resurrected.”

So if what he’s referring to is based on the same research, it would be that the process of “returning to life” (and returning to home) is like a resurrection. We are “resurrected” when we return home (reconnecting with all of our energy) and when we return here, we are “resurrected” with the conscious energy of being in a human body. Going and coming is relatively the same thing, relatively “resurrecting” each time we choose a new lifetime.)

Thank you very much Gabriel. Before we run out of time, can you guys show Kim a place of healing where she can go after this lifetime where they took her to heal? Is there a place for her to heal?

(Kimberly wipes away tears.) He’s showing me…. he just shows this room like we walked down this hall, and it’s all white. But the whiteness feels tangible, and he’s on my left and this is Gabriel leading me, and he’s sort of there in this opening and he gestures for me to enter. The room is gold, and there’s nothing in the room, but the light is golden, the walls are gold and are the vibration of Kim – not the earthly Kim, but the higher Kim.

And Gabriel is saying, “The way that you heal others or help others…” Those words don’t really  grasp the breadth of what he’s saying. He says “That is what makes the walls so strong here.  That’s what is healing for you.”  Gabriel is saying how “Something might have a stamp of time on it, but it’s really not (locked) in that stamp of time; it’s always occurring, it’s always in existence. So therefore that’s what upholds this vibrating place, this room that continues to grow (from Kim’s vibration.)”

So this is a room that Kim created?

“Yes.”

(Note: In “Flipside” there is an account of a fellow escorted into a giant temple, filled with people in white uniforms, hats. He’s told that this cathedral was “built from all the good intentions that you’ve done over all of your lifetimes.” Then he’s taken outside and shown a giant temple that resembles the Taj Mahal and says “And that’s yours as well. We created it for you, so you can entertain yourself with whatever you want back here.”)

So this room is constructed from the energy of Kim healing people? A construction composed of the things she’s achieved in her work?

He says, “Yes.” He says “She’ll go and she’ll see by running her hands, (along the walls) merging with that energy, she’ll see both sides of it.. so if I did something to make someone else heal, I would experience not just Kim perspective but the healed person’s perspective too and that’s why it’s so strong.

Let me ask, Gabriel, can you give her a sensation of remembering this room now? Can you give her that?

(Kimberly reacts) Oh. (She sighs, cries) He um… He brought Christ forward.

(Note: Interesting to note, I didn’t ask for him to come forward, I asked if he could help her remember the sensation of being in this “healing room” where all of her “golden energy” exists. Instead, he responded by bringing someone else forward.)

Can we talk to him a little bit?

(Kimberly laughs) Jesus is like, “You mean do you have time to talk to Jesus?” He brought him forward and said “This is her home she knows her home in me.”

Describe what he looks like to you.

He’s taller than me, not by a whole lot. His hair is like dark brown... his eyes are like a blue- green. He’s wearing something really plain. (Reacts). He just had me feel the hair on his face. (She touches her own face. She is in tears as she recounts this.)

Jesus, can you step back a few feet? We can’t have a conversation with you if you’re going to freak people out. Maybe you can change your clothes to something else…

He’s in jeans and a tee shirt before you said that! He just did that!

(Note: Again, a visual or a response before I can ask for it. He often shows up this way after I ask him to “change into something casual.” It’s often jeans and a tee shirt.)

Let her see that you are a regular person.

(Kim wipes away a tear). He’s just so compassionate… “But I’m also just like you...” he said.

Like Kim you mean. I like his sense of humor.

“Both,” he said.

Has anyone complained about the book?

(Note: Again, I’m asking a question Kimberly doesn’t know the answer to. I’m referring to the recent publication of the book “Hacking the Afterlife” where he repeats a number of these controversial points. And he responds to the question, without Kimberly knowing what I’m referring to.)

He says, “It brings a level of truth and awareness that is right now. It is... needed.”

(Note: At this point, I realize my camera battery is getting low, so I ask if he can bring someone forward that Kimberly doesn’t know. My old friend Bill Paxton (but I don’t mention his last name.)

Jesus, can do me a huge favor. Can you bring my friend Bill forward?

Kimberly: He says, “Bill has been waiting for you.”

Hi Bill. What do you want to say to your family or friends?


*****

         Kimberly Babcock

And the interview then goes on to talk to my old friend Bill Paxton. (That portion is in "Architecture of the Afterlife" and footage is in the film "Talking to Bill Paxton" on Gaia.) Kimberly is available for private consultation, and a close friend called me after a session with her to rave about her abilities. 

Kimberly is the author of "Inside Out" and here's a link to her book. She can be found on Facebook, Linked In and at Instagram.  

I was startled by how the contents of this session are repeated in other sessions in "Architecture of the Afterlife." I'm only sorry I didn't include the entire interview in the book. (When the folks on the flipside take the time to speak to us, the least I can do is quote them accurately.) Basically other "archangels" show up in "Architecture" - there are other mentions of Jesus, how he looks, what he's up to, etc - all appear in the book, not related to this interview, but indeed related - because the does the same things (changes into jeans and a tee shirt for example)!

But something I wanted to mention with regard to this interview.

I didn't know this was her moniker. Honest.


At some point she mentions Mother Mary "tossing rose petals."  As I was transcribing this yesterday, I thought - hang on, why is Mary throwing rose petals at me?  At first I was startled (Is she telling me to be quiet? Or to keep going?) - and yesterday I came upon this answer; 

“Go gently. There are people here (listening to you) who have spent their lives in deep faith and reverence.  They are people doing their best to share love and compassion. 

They happen to be of faith, they happen to have the path that they chose. Tred lightly, as these are rose petals in your path.”

So I’m going to try to do that in the future. Apologies to anyone I have not “tred lightly” with. I shall endeavor to do less stomping on rose petals and more deftly dancing between them. 


Mea culpa.

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